Agony of Defeat: Michigan fails to show up in East Lansing until the very end, nearly gets away with it
Sonofa.....
First off congratulations to Michigan State on winning the football game. Frankly, I'm not sure if our football team has any feet left after we shot them all off yesterday, what more can you say? In a game that featured approximately 54 minutes of woeful offensive ineptness coupled with periods of alternating defensive brilliance and stoutness-resembling-that-of-a-wet-noodle, it's difficult to imagine that we forced it to overtime. Consider that after the first quarter, State had tallied somewhere around 150 yards of offense to our none and you'll get an idea of how things were going for the Michigan Wolverines on Saturday. Yet, despite all of the missed opportunities, the turnover on State's 10 yardline, the failure to punch our first possession forward in any way from their 14, and Zoltan's mind-bending decision to take off from inside our own 20, and our rage-inducing ability to let a team convert on 3rd and long time and again, there we were with a chance to walk out of East Lansing at 5-0. Arg indeed.
Miscellaneous
- If anyone can explain Mark Dantonio's in-game decisions yesterday, you go ahead and let me know. Between his insistence on switching his QBs on a whim and going into super-shell mode at the end of the football game that gave us those opportunities to come back I was continually thinking to myself "what the @#%@ is he doing?" Sure he's going to be an insufferable imbecile for the next year, but who cares?
- Going for two at the end of regulation never entered my mind. Why would you when you have all of the momentum in the football game?
- If an Irish fan ever complains about the refs again, they should have their face caved in by all bystanders. What happened to Washington in that game was criminal.
Offense
- Carlos Brown and Brandon Minor combined for ten carries.... TEN @#%@#% CARRIES! Of my "um, excuse me coaching staff, would you mind addressing this?" questions from this football game, this is at the top of the list. That Carlos Brown touched the football eight times total is CRIMINAL. I mean, I have no explanation for it, none. Brown deserves to touch the football 20 times a game, period. He's the most explosive player on the field, feed him the ball.
- The offensive line had its worst performance of the year, I haven't re-watched the game (and to be honest I won't) but we had absolutely no movement off the line and more often than not they were blown off the ball. State dominated the line of scrimmage. Though it does at least appear that we've worked out the snap issue.
- I hate being one of those people who questions play-calling, but you pick off State to start the game and have the ball inside their 15 yardline... very next play should be taking a shot at the end-zone. That was an eerily similar start to last year's OSU game, except this time we at least managed 3 points...
- If Michigan had come out on top of this thing, we'd be talking about that 92 yard drive in the rain with no timeouts for many moons to come. Angry though I am about the loss, I'll take our football team and this quarterback every day of the week and twice on Saturdays thanks. That Michigan played approximately 5 minutes of offensive football and nearly won this thing... well it's just ridiculous is what it is.
- Tate Forcier also got away with MURDER on two throws during that drive... the first one to Junior Hemingway that Junior essentially just took away from the Spartan DB and then the second to last play into the endzone where he appeared to shoot a free-throw towards the back line and miraculously did not have it picked. Moxy? Boatloads. Living on the edge? Yes. He made a poor decision that bit us in the very end, but you take the bad with the good at this point, if it weren't for Tate picking the team up on his shoulders we don't even make it to OT. Not letting him off for the pick, but let's realize that without him this wasn't even a contest yesterday. I'll flat out take him over every QB in the league without even blinking... and he's a true freshman.
- I want us to let Denard Robinson throw the football. I had no problem with him coming in the game, we had done NOTHING on offense up to that juncture so why not? But if you're going to put him in, you have to let him throw. Make the plays really easy one sided reads with a quick check down for God's sake, but let him throw it!
- Another quietly solid football game from Martavious Odoms, I really really like how he plays the game. Roy Roundtree! Welcome Sir! Junior Hemingway, where have you gone?! Daryl Stonum had me thinking all kinds of poor thoughts prior to his outstanding 60 yard touchdown... that, however, does not preclude me from saying this: HOLD ON TO THE FREAKIN' FOOTBALL. I'm surprised we didn't try more down-field passing early in the game, I know there was lots of pressure, but that matchup favors our receivers every single time. Greg Mathews was pretty much unheard of the whole day.
- I can't be the only person who thought at halftime, "we're going to make a couple of adjustments and pop the clutch on the offense here to start the 3rd quarter." If anyone noticed any offensive adjustments, please point them out to me.
- I'm not naming names on this one, but blatant drops are like white-hot fire pokers to the soul.
Defense
- I don't really know what to say... to give up 20 points based on all of that yardage and time of possession was a great effort. BUT, to give up all of that yardage and time of possession was agonizingly awful considering how many 3rd and a million's we gave up. If the D managed to get off the field even half of the time it had the chances to, we win this thing going away. That sounds overly critical, but it gets back to the whole argument of "number of trials", the offense needed more plays, and the D didn't deliver in that area enough.
- Hey, pressure on the QB!!! Alright!
- Hey, rushing three on 3rd and 17.... hide the sharp objects. My cat vomited right after that play, possibly due to noise level in the house, but I prefer to think that even he was able to recognize just how stupid that was and was made physically ill by it.
- Brandon Graham must've finally decided that despite being held blatantly on every play that he was just going to get to the QB regardless. A couple of outstanding plays by him yesterday. He also broke that felon Winston in half on 3rd and goal after our "fake punt", nicely done.
- We held their passing game in check, something I don't think many of us would've ever predicted heading into the game. We also reverted even further in our tackling... which is enraging. Way too many freakin' missed tackles, including the final one. Those are also like white hot fire pokers to the soul.
- Stevie Brown continues to be the most consistent player in the LB corps, which, awesome. This is just based upon what I saw during the game again, but Jonas Mouton continues to be out of position more often than not and on big plays too.... I don't have a fix for this, but the coaches really, REALLY need to figure one out. I thought Ezeh played better, but again I wasn't paying attention to where he was on every play.
- Did Cissoko even see the field? I thought JT Floyd played pretty well, better than his debut performance without a doubt.
- Several of our safeties have a terrible habit of simply running into people rather than, you know, tackling them.
- Holding that team to 20 points should've been more than enough.
Special Teams
- Jason Olesnavage, good job man, has been more than reliable thus far.
- Zoltan Zoltan Zoltan Zoltan Zoltan... even Space Emperors aren't immune from momentary lapses of reason apparently.... Jesus Tapdancing Christ what were you thinking? Yeah we held them to three... which uh, would've been a nice three to have back with 2 seconds to go in the game no? By the way, the spot on Forcier's scramble that lead to that "punt" was criminally bad, but that's beside the point.
- Stonum is unbelievably lucky that guy was out of bounds when he recovered his fumble... young man, this is not 2008, hold on to the football (again).
- I think we're going to block a punt next week, we've been oh-so-close quite a few times this year, so I'll go out on a limb and call for it here.
Summary
- 4-1 after 5 games would've had a lot of people thrilled back in August... After seeing how we lost that "1" though, I'm disappointed. Not in a stupid way, just disappointed. 5-0 was well within our grasp.
- Our perfect OT record is now ruined, arg.
- This week's game is enormously important now, which, duh.
- GIVE CARLOS BROWN THE FOOTBALL, PLEASE, I'M BEGGING YOU.
GO BLUE!
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I’m a Michigan fan living in Pittsburgh. So I watched Pitt beat WVU to knock them out of the title game.
Pat White went down for a decent chunk of that game and the backup was not good. So Coach Rod would obviously turn the offense over to Steve Slaton, knowing that: 1. Slaton was their best player on the field, 2. The QB is no good, and 3. Slaton is tearing Pitt up.
Guess what happened, they threw the ball. Never even threw it to Slaton. Slaton and Noel Devine touched the ball once between them while Pitt took over the game.
I love Coach Rod, he’s one of the top spread coaches in the nation, but he will randomly forget that he has good players on the field and lose a game without using them.
It’s ridiculous. But it happens.
I’m confused why Zoltan is getting all the heat for the decision and RR isn’t. Why is the read even on the table at that point? RR said he’s made the wrong read and he should have kicked it, but, again, why isn’t the play call “punt” instead of “read punt”? I’m typically cool with risky 4th down calls, but even pretending to go for it with the punter standing on the 5 is foolishness.
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Because Zoltan made the decision?
What else do you want?
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by SCM on Oct 4, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Stupid no edit...
Cut off the rest of my response somehow. I’m not going to theorize how the punt team works since I’m not on staff, but I think it’s safe to say that the read is on for every punt, that’s just how its set up, the player made a bad decision, end of story.
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by SCM on Oct 4, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
No, you have to trust your players to make decisions
Especially senior leaders. It’s important for team chemistry and confidence. They have to know you believe in them. You can’t micromanage everything.
Zoltan made a bad decision. It’s a “teachable moment,” like many others in college sports. Everyone moves on.
Clearly in this situation......
……its up to the coach to say punt the ball…….Dont even think about running for it…….Im a State fan and was happy he did…….but after the game and hearing that it was his read I was like wow the head coach has to go up to him in that situation and say kick it away……Bad coaching.
by BennieBladesFan on Oct 5, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
well
I think the read is always on the table, and RR trusted Zoltan to make the right decision. Zoltan obviously thought he saw something, but yeah, the smart move there is to punt it away. I chalk it up to a player trying to make a play and maybe not thinking through the situation 100%. Remember – college kids and all?
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Tackling or lack thereof
“Several of our safeties have a terrible habit of simply running into people rather than, you know, tackling them. "
Truest statement ever. Missed tackle in OT leads to the TD. Sure they probably kick the field goal but you never know.
Minor/Brown
You answered your own question in the next bullet point. The offensive line was abused pretty much all day which is why Minor/Brown did not get more touches. Also, you see rbs get plenty of touches when there are sustained drives. Well, there were two significant drives yesterday, 1 of which covered 92 yards in 2 minutes w/ no timeouts.
Bad O-line or not...
They needed to get the football more, more screens, more adjustment to the pressure that State was bringing, there’s no excuse for them getting all of 10 touches of the football in a game, none.
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by SCM on Oct 4, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Entertaining
The loss seemed overdue since our Defense is more like a colander than a defense. That missed tackle by Woolfolk at the end typifies our current defensive status. I’ve always said that a team should be able to win when an Offense puts up over 21 points (in this case 20 points). The Defense has got to hold the opponent to at least 21 points each game— or there is something wrong with the D. Nevertheless, watching Tate in that last 4 minutes almost makes up for the loss. Quite the entertainment— Forcier is.
Just the facts, please.
“He also broke that felon Winston in half on 3rd and goal after our ‘fake punt’, nicely done.”
Nasty hit, but it was a misdemeanor.
Did His Time.....
……Leave Winston alone.
by BennieBladesFan on Oct 5, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions
If by "did his time"
you mean he did about a third of his time and was released because of overcrowding just in time to attend football practice, then yes, I suppose.
How was he allowed back on the team is my question. But that’s another post, I suppose.
And yes, misdemeanor.
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M defensive backs
I really don’t understand why on 3rd and less than 10 our db’s are constantly lining up more than 10 yards off the ball. The routes are ran underneath and the opposing teams are constantly getting easy first downs, sustaining long drives. Our D is on the field for 8-10 minute drives time after time. I know that our D coaches have to see this. State was lined up on us tight for most of the game, which disrupted the timing of the routes. The Michigan recievers are more talented than the State db’s and Michigan’s db’s are better athletes than States wr’s. What am I missing?
I asked this question...
To my television rather loudly and repeatedly on almost every 3rd down Saturday… we give up the sticks nearly every single time… I don’t have a good explanation, at some point you have to count on your players to make some plays yes?
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by SCM on Oct 5, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, Yes, Yes
I know we are hurting in DB speed and are afraid of the long plays over head, but it’s ridiculous. This happens on all downs not just 3rd downs. MSU threw quick passes to the far WR 4 times on 1st down and gained either 8 or more yards each time. Setting up either 2nd and short or a new first down. If our DBs had blazing closing speed and we’re tackling machines, our system would work. But, their not.
But, we have to realize our D is not very good. Warren is good and Grahm is great. But other, than that we’re struggling. Yes, we have a good play here and there, but we’re far from consistent.
And, have to comment on our LBs. We are lacking there. Yes, Obi gets a ton of tackles, but they’re tackles 5 yards deep. He’s not filling holes early. The sad thing is he’s our best. Kovachs actually had his best game last week I thought, but Mouton was terrible.
Last play of the game, Wilfork had the worst tackling technique and Mouton followed up with an ‘ole move that was just as pathetic. In the beginning of the season our tackling was better. I don’t know if it’s a matter of better competition or just getting away from fundamentals, but it has to improve.
Overall, we need to blitz more. Even though twice we guessed wrong and blitzed from the wrong side which led to big plays (like the last play). But, we can’t line up and when battles one on one on Defense. So to avoid the long drives, we have to get more risky. Yes, we’ll give up some bigger plays, but we might avoid less time consuming drives that wear us down and keep our offense off the field. Which struggles when they fall out of rhythm from lengthy stints waiting on the sidelines.
Is MSU’s front 7 that good? or did we play that bad up front? They killed us on the line. It wasn’t even a battle. They were applying pressure with a 4 man rush and against the run they beat our O-line man-for-man each time. It was ugly.
We’ve been struggling on the O-line for the last 2 weeks, probably due to our normal center being out – so I hope he gets well soon.
One last thought. Why can’t we get Forcier in as QB and put Robinson in as TB or slot, or something?

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