Agony of Defeat: Are There Any Meaningful Streaks Left?
This team has managed to find new and varied ways to tear its fans' hearts out over the past month and a half and yesterday was no exception. A classic recipe of a crippling turnover, a genius playcall by the opposing coach, a missed extra point, and just to top it off a horrifying booth review all combined to stick the needle to Michigan in ways that never cease to be cruel. My heart goes out to these players though, they're fighting their tails off. Oh and let's just get this out of the way at the outset: I cannot conceive of a situation where anyone could possibly defend the overturn on that crucial replay late in the game. Not one. There was absolutely nothing in any of those replays that could've overturned the call on the field, which was a 1st and goal Michigan. It was horrible and I'm now done talking about it, I promise.
For the second year in a row neither of these teams' defenses were able to put up much of a front against the offenses and it made for an extremely entertaining/frustrating-as-hell football game. I certainly tip my cap to Coach Hope for the onside kick call: nobody in the stadium and certainly nobody at home was looking for that and it couldn't have worked out more perfectly for Purdue. I felt as though Purdue formulated a great gameplan to focus on this defense's obvious deficiencies and they executed it well enough to come away with the win, I mean Joey Elliot lit us up for 367 yards and looked downright good doing it (both picks were tips and not exactly his fault). As rage inducing as yesterday's loss was for Michigan fans, I do think there are a few things we can take away from the loss moving forward. I'll cover more of this later, but we've known for some time that the defense is... well it is what it is. This isn't trying to carve out a moral win in any way, shape, or form, but rather just pointing out that amidst the overall continuing struggle, some aspects of this team's game noticeably stepped up yesterday afternoon. The Michigan O put more than enough points on the board to win this football game, but when it comes down to it, a missed extra point (among other issues) proved to be just too much to overcome in the end... sigh.
Miscellaneous
- Boiled Sports had a few things to say about Rodriguez's post-game comments regarding Hope's low-class move after the game. Quite frankly, who the hell cares? Nobody, that's who. Hope apparently didn't like Rodriguez calling out a blatant cheap shot several weeks ago that just so happened to be by a Purdue player. Of course Rodriguez's singling out of this play has nothing to do with the fact that it was Purdue and Hope but EVERYTHING to do with the fact that the Big 10 conference set itself up as judge and jury of such actions earlier in the season. Hope naturally is too uncouth to understand this and so instead of focusing on his team's great win, Hope figured he'd really stick it to Rodriguez. What a class act. BS continues on to make a rather insight-less rant about Rodriguez's future and generally looks foolish doing so, which is pretty apropos actually. How about you lads stick to topics you actually know something about and celebrate your once in a generation win with some class? Too much to ask?
- Navy managed to put a small grin on my face yesterday afternoon, congrats to them.
- Stanford hanging 51 on Oregon gets a "WOW" if you ask me.
- I had a feeling Ohio State would be able to contain Penn State's offense, but I wasn't sure how well the Buckeye offense and Pryor would hold up against Penn State's D... that Ohio State won wasn't surprising, how they won was.
- Iowa losing to Northwestern was pretty cruel not that I have any sympathy for them... but that they lost Stanzi in doing so is pouring a really wealthy helping of salt in the wound.
Offense
- The offense came alive again yesterday for really the first time since the Iowa game, and managed to sustain it for the majority of the game. I loved the game plan, I loved how well Tate played, and I felt that all in all there were some noticeable steps taken. The switch to the two-back set was a true revelation. Michigan's first four drives netted 24 points, which, YAY.
- 12 points in the second half.... Missed FG, and of course that other thing that I said I wouldn't mention again played into that.
- [Edit] I forgot to mention in the initial post that I fail to understand why we didn't kick the FG on 4th and 10 down eight points in the game... This is the second time in the past few weeks I've really questioned an in-game decision by our coaching staff regarding coming back from a deficit... that's concerning if you ask me.
- I continue to be flummoxed about how on plays like crucial two-point conversions we don't have two or three "go-to" plays that you can run that you know the opposing team has not seen or prepared for. At the very least don't you have to roll Tate out and give him the option to run or throw there? Arg.
- Great balance, 11 first downs rushing, 11 first downs passing. 427 yards of total offense. Michigan's rushing offense put up 215 yards on the ground and averaged 4.9 yards per carry. Listen, missed FG and EP or not, the offense did more than enough to win this football game. That's not something we could've said the last two weeks.
- Tate Forcier made a lot of great throws yesterday, and ended up 15/24 for 212 yards and 1 TD. Of course he also made one big mistake on the option pitch, but the rest of his decision making was much improved. With something bordering on a remotely competent defense, that one turnover is not nearly as huge as it ended up being yesterday. All in all it was as good of a game he's played in the last six weeks, which is incredibly encouraging if you ask me. Much less freelancing, much more sticking within the system. Amen.
- Brandon Minor really gutted out a heck of a performance yesterday afternoon, which honestly was the first time this year he looked anywhere close to the player we saw towards the end of last season. 154 yards and 3 TDs, he did everything he could to carry this team, hats off to you Brandon.
- Roy Roundtree, much to the chagrin of Purdue faithful during the game I'm sure, had a fantastic day and has really stepped up in Martavious Odoms' absence. His emergence is another positive sign for this football team going forward. Forcier has been targeting him more and more since he made it into the lineup and the fact that he had seven more catches than any other Michigan receiver yesterday certainly emphasizes that point.
- The offensive line turned in a better performance this week, although I suspect a lot of the improvement also lies with going with the two back set for the majority of the day.
Defense
- I'm not going to re-invent the wheel here, the unit is easily worse than it was last year, which is to say it's really bad. A few positives from yesterday though: a first half where they limited Purdue to 10 points and really did a great job after the opening drive. Also, two forced turnovers, which was great to see after the drought heading into this game.
- I am not going to write the same thing over and over and over again in this space regarding the negatives and deficiencies, they have been well illustrated and have not really changed, and honestly I don't have any new insight into any of them. The following are points that I think could at least be addressed in some small way with two weeks to go and our bowl lives depending on a win against two solid/better-than-solid football teams...
- Tackling. For the sake of our sanity, wrap the ball carrier up. With the way some of our guys are tackling I'd be just fine with moving Kovacs, who has been downright decent in anything that doesn't require him to cover much faster guys downfield, up with the LBs and.... oh wait, we have absolutely no one else at safety, nevermind... sigh.
- Do not, under any circumstances, get beat deep. Why even put the safeties in a position where they have to come up and then drop into coverage? Just don't let it happen. We can't give up easy points and one play drives. I would love to see our corners playing tighter more frequently, but you have to keep the safeties back.
- I almost think that we need to move Woolfolk back to safety at this point and try someone else at corner... I don't know who that would be, but I don't see nearly as much issue at corner as I do at our safety positions. If Woolfolk can perform back there more effectively than Williams then that is where he should be.
- I really appreciate all the great work put in over at mgoblog detailing the disaster that has been our trying to keep defensive talent on the team over the past four years. It illustrates in an incredibly clear way just how little we're actually working with here. I honestly do not know what else Robinson and company can do with this defense, the areas of weakness are too numerous to mask or hide.
Special Teams
- Ugh.
- Giving up the onside kick was bad, it was a great call, but yeeeeeeeeeeesh.
- Olesnavage has been nothing short of rock-solid all year, and his performance yesterday was one of the more perplexing aspects of the game if you ask me. A missed extra point was the dagger, but his miss on the 48 yard FG in the 4th was also enormous. There's no harm in missing a 48 yard FG don't get me wrong, but he dead nailed the 51 yarder earlier in the game going the same way, so I was entirely confident in him prior to that kick. He's still had a great year but yesterday will be one he'd like to forget I'm sure.
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So, yep. Another loss, another week of speculation and dampened hopes. I don't really know what to say in this space, we're going to Wisconsin, who lest you forget absolutely housed Purdue 37-0 a week ago... so yeah. I just cannot believe the events of these last two weeks. We've given up a tidy 1000 yards and 76 points to the likes of Purdue and Illinois. What do you want me to say? OT losses to Michigan State and narrow defeats to the likes of Iowa on the road are things that any football team can experience and are hardly a warning sign of impending doom. But for this team, to be in the position they were in two weeks ago and to have come through those two weeks at 0-2 is beyond explanation. It is on coaching, it is on execution, and it's on a team that also can't seem to buy a break since the calendar hit October. These last two weeks represent a blown opportunity that may well cost this team for years to come. Not in terms of coaching stays, I refuse to believe that Michigan would act rashly in that regard, but rather in terms of both practice and recruiting. Last year's team managed to win two conference games. We're a true freshman's heroics away from not having won a single conference game this season. That is so bad it defies words.
But (you knew there would be a but didn't you?), a win in these next two weeks would go miles (haha, not a pun I promise). It would mean Michigan actually did something along the lines of either beating a downright solid team on the road or doing the unthinkable and beating Ohio State for the first time in half a decade (which would instantly cure all ills as far as 90% of the fanbase is concerned). It would mean they somehow pulled this thing out of the fire for 60 mintues, banded together, and played their tails off. Likely? No, not really. Conceivable? If the offense plays the way it's capable of playing and the defense stops the bleeding long enough to tackle someone... then yes. A win would push the record to a wholly unsatisfying 6-6, but a record that produced 3 more wins than last season and one that many at the outset of the year were throwing around as a somewhat pessimistic prediction.... and that was before we had any idea our defense would be this bad.
A lot of talk around the start of this season centered on whether or not we'd make "the leap"... I never would've really considered that half team would make it and the other half would go in the complete opposite direction. The offense is better in every conceivable way, the system does in fact work, and it is working with youth and backups in key areas still. The defense, the defense is as decimated in terms of talent as any unit I can ever remember at this program. The lack of any kind of continuity at the head of the defensive coaching staff likely doesn't help here. There are coaching decisions on defense that I have not understood or agreed with, but I do not think snap evaluations of Greg Robinson's tenure at this point are based on anything called "logic" or "reason". We're working at a significant talent deficiency compared to every other team in the conference on the defensive side of the football. That is a fact. It's something we cannot hide and cannot fix immediately.
If this team is going to salvage anything from this year, a year that brought joy for a whole month, then they're going to have do it by out-gunning people. It is what it is, and it's not going to suddenly change over the next two weeks of practice. So c'mon Blue, go out there and fight your hearts out.
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does anyone have Ron English’s number??
by ilwlvren on Nov 8, 2009 5:32 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
somewhere around 500yds/game.
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by Pinchy The Lobster on Nov 8, 2009 6:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Defending hte replay overtruned call
Well, there is the fact that the player was laying entirely on a guy who was laying out of bounds before he even began the lateral. That is reason enough for me to overturn.
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by BoilerTMill on Nov 8, 2009 5:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Unfortunately, that does not make Carlos Brown out of bounds. You have to actually TOUCH the ground to be ruled out. Just like being down in the field of play.
Try again.
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by Pinchy The Lobster on Nov 8, 2009 6:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
As far as I am concerned it was a makeup call
you shouldn’t have had the ball anyway. the 45 yard line does not play for Purdue, so there is no way that was fair catch interference before the drive started.
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by BoilerTMill on Nov 10, 2009 8:33 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Lateral
Lateraling it forward a yard is what makes it illegal.
So you try again.
Yeah!
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by J Money BS on Nov 10, 2009 9:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I was addressing the out of bounds issue, genius.
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by Pinchy The Lobster on Nov 10, 2009 10:52 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Forgot to mention...
That ridiculous fair catch interference call on the punt preceding that drive. I’m not sure how a player who isn’t touched gets interfered with. Bad calls all around that day.
by TelePunk5 on Nov 9, 2009 8:16 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
About RichRod though
I think both coaches are to blame. i don’t like that Hope couldn’t just win and keep his mouth shut. Nothing really needed to be said and he looks like an ass for saying something. RichRod really shouldn’t have been crying about it though in the presser.
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by BoilerTMill on Nov 8, 2009 5:58 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Yeah… it does seem rather childish.
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by Pinchy The Lobster on Nov 8, 2009 6:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
I worry about
giving Rich Rod even another year. As a second year coach, you must show progress. Progress means improving your in-conference record and hopefully having at least one signature win in the Big Ten. Progress also means that you trend upward towards the end of your second season, not down. You need to show improvement. Rich Rod isn’t. John Beilen is a perfect example of a great hire. First year growing pains, second year ups and downs but progress, and now high expectations for a third year. Plenty of college football coaches have had immediate success upon taking over a team – Mack Brown, Paul Johnson, Urban Meyer, Nick Saban, and so on. I simply can’t believe that Michigan’s starters are that bad. Rich Rod is a bad fit. And I firmly believe he’s not a personality match for Michigan. Enough of the crying. Seriously. I’m embarrassed.
If Rich Rod is allowed to recruit players for another year or two and he isn’t successful, what then? Are we then forced to hire another coach who runs the spread offense? If not, what does a pro-style coach do with Rich Rod’s recruits? Let’s get a defensive-minded coach in Ann Arbor. And if we can’t find one, offer Jon Gruden the job.
by k-raw on Nov 8, 2009 9:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
I simply can’t believe that Michigan’s starters are that bad.
Uhhh… that pretty much sums everything up. Take off your maize and blue glasses.
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by Pinchy The Lobster on Nov 9, 2009 12:08 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Just a question.
How does Rich Rodriguez continue to get the benefit of the doubt because he needs his players? What was wrong with Lloyd Carr’s players?
The way I see it, Rodriguez ran off Ryan Mallet because he thought that he’d win a National Title if he got Pryor, and he figured Pryor wouldn’t want there to be competition. In case you missed it, Ryan Mallet is good. Urban Meyer didn’t run off Chris Leak, and he had Tim Tebow for god’s sake.
Seems to me that if Rich Rodriguez were better coach, he could have kept you guys more than a little competive. Don’t you think that Forcier would be 50 times more effective running a package of plays, rather than the whole offense?
MGoBlog had a pretty big story last week about how Michigan’s attrition rate (loss of scholarship players) is the worst in the Big Ten. Even if the story that they are “fat”, “lazy”, "Stupid, “not Michigan men”, holds, wouldn’t you still be better off with them, then without them?
I don’t buy that there were no athletes at Michigan when Rodriguez took over. I think ran a fair number of them off. Why does he get a pass on this?
Paul Johnson got the flexbone option system he ran at Navy off the ground at Georgia Tech in a year. Hell, just about every runs the spread now. It seems like you folks are paying an awful high price for something that should have been instituted a bit better.
Beat Indiana, I guess.
by jesse. on Nov 9, 2009 12:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently you have been living on Mars
because you obviously have never seen Mallet try to run with the football. There is no way at all he fits in RR’s system. And Mallet has stated that exact reason for transferring.
Tim Tebow was a true freshman while Leak was a senior and he only WON A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP. Why in the fuck would you even post that?
Explain “ran a fair number of them off”. Is that 2 or 20 players? I mean I don’t even fucking know and I’m pretty sure I pay more attention to M football than you do. Is there some list that you can show me that shows this? The “Players Run Off by RR” list??
Georgia Tech does not run the spread.
Paul Johnson is doing a better job than Paterno. What gives?
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by Pinchy The Lobster on Nov 9, 2009 3:09 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Dude
I have seen Mallet run the football. He can’t. But he is a good quarterback. My whole point was that maybe Rich Rodriguez could have put his “system” on hold for a few years until he had the personel, while at the same time coaching the players he had, which were plenty talented. Had he done so, you might be better.
Leak and Tebow. Seems to me, based on what I’ve seen, that Rodriguez would have gotten rid of Leak, so he could use the freshman that would better run his system. That Meyer didn’t do this, and WON A NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP might supply a little evidence to support my coach the players you’ve got theory.
Georgia Tech does not run the spread. No they don’t. They run a flexbone. Proficently. And did from the start. Rodriguez is almost two full seasons in, and they still can’t get it right. The point being, that it is possible to put a new, completely different offense, and not totally go into the toilet.
Paul Johnson is doing a better job than Paterno. Is he? Okay, so what?
As far as attrition. Talk to mgoblog about it. I doubt that they refer to it as the “players run off by Rich Rodrguez list”, but it’s a pretty length article sighting “small recruiting classes and high attrition” as the reason you’re defense is playing poorly.
Beat Indiana, I guess.
by jesse. on Nov 9, 2009 3:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Mallett was not the starting QB for 3 years like Leak was… that was my point. Mallett had only started a couple of games for an injured Henne. There is a big difference there. And Leak was also a very talented runner.
I actually misread your original post. I thought you were saying GT also runs the spread.
There are going to be people leaving when a new coach comes in. Just like when Meyer took over at FL. And he wasn’t completely changing their offense. His no nonsense attitude and much higher demands “ran” a lot of pIayers off. think there is a huge talent deficiency at M right now. Some may think otherwise, but I think it is glaringly obvious during games. There are a few players starting to break out. And 2 true freshmen QBs isn’t helping the matter.
Much to my surprise there has only been 1 game where I thought we had no chance to win and that was the Penn St. game. OT loss on int to MSU, late int at Iowa, missed FG and extra point with Purdue. It’s not like we’re losing 35-3 every game.
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by Pinchy The Lobster on Nov 9, 2009 3:51 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Mallett was not the starting QB for 3 years like Leak was No, but Mallet was a stud. I mean he was the #1 recruit in the nation, and justifiably so. He beat Penn State as a true freshman. I was impressed enough, and glad to see him go.
His no nonsense attitude and much higher demands "ran" a lot of pIayers off. Okay fine. But still, isn’t making nice with the current players part of switching jobs, and being the new coach?
And 2 true freshmen QBs isn’t helping the matter No doubt, but seeing as how he decided to at least nudge out Mallet, and that Pryor was never a lock (obviously) two years in a row with a freshman quarterback was emminently forseeable.
Beat Indiana, I guess.
by jesse. on Nov 9, 2009 4:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Short Generation
If by generation you mean a few weeks, then yes, this was a once a generation win for Purdue. Lest we forget Purdue beat then-No. 7 Ohio State just three weeks ago. I would call that a bigger win for them than Saturday’s.
by BTeleven on Nov 9, 2009 5:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
well...
Michigan fans still think there’s something special about beating them. App State took the luster off a while ago. Purdue winning there was more a monkey off their backs. Because, let’s face it, you’re supposed to beat bad teams and Michigan, at 1-5 in conference (and 4-5 overall without their midseason cupcake) is a terrible team.
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by J Money BS on Nov 10, 2009 9:53 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs
App State took the luster off....
and Utah, and Illinois, and Toledo, and Michigan State, and Northwestern.
Ever Grateful. Ever True.
by PurdueMatt on Nov 10, 2009 2:56 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
and Purdue.
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by Pinchy The Lobster on Nov 10, 2009 3:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Roundtree
“Roy Roundtree, much to the chagrin of Purdue faithful during the game I’m sure, had a fantastic day.”
Yes, much to our chagrin. Very chagrinful to be 2-0 against him and his mentally unbalanced coach. Maybe Rich will cry at his next presser. He’s due, isn’t he?
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by J Money BS on Nov 10, 2009 9:10 AM CST reply actions 0 recs
You aren’t very bright.
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by Pinchy The Lobster on Nov 10, 2009 4:01 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
We do still have one
meaningful streak that I can think of left, but I will refrain from mentioning it for fear of that being broken too.
by Lostincali on Nov 11, 2009 6:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs
Does it involve the words "shut" and "out" in some combination?
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by SCM on Nov 11, 2009 9:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs
Remember
True fans shoud always be fans . The defense has not cuaght up to the offense in athletes. They have a great defensive cord. this is a very young team . Mark my words they will be great, if not the greatest team ever at Mich.Remember an Iowa team who barely hung on to win. Stop crying and get behind the new forward thinking coach.
by Baldbull on Nov 12, 2009 6:33 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

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