Scout.com's "Upset Alert": Michigan over Wisconsin in Ann Arbor Nov 20
by markusr2007 on Nov 15, 2010 1:54 PM CST
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I'm not sure if this is Fiutak or one of his acolytes over at Scout.com, but they're predicting a Michigan upset of Wisconsin in the Big House this coming weekend?
Jeeze, put the doobies down guys?
Then again, maybe not.
Is a Michigan upset of Wisconsin possible this fall? Sure.
I mean, ask Mike Riley at Oregon State if he ever thought in a million years that....a 17 point loss!...to a football program skimming the bottom of the ocean......at home!....Aw anyway, yeah it can happen.
Is it probable? Dude, don't ask. I'm just trying to bask in my own short-lived glory as a Michigan fan. You know, the glory that takes the form of two back-to-back wins (both by a nano-metric butt-hair, mind you) over Big Ten perennial "giants" Illinois and Purdue!
It must be said though that Michigan has had a hell of a time beating Wisconsin in Camp Randall in recent years. 2001 was the last Michigan win, and that over a really bad 5-7 Badger team. Camp Randall really is tough environment to play in, let alone win a football game.
Is Michigan's Big House that "tough"?
I find it interesting that Michigan Stadium has been a virtual graveyard for some of Wisconsin's finest football teams over the last 40 years. Badger fans that have travelled across or down and around Lake Michigan to Ann Arbor over the years have endured a lot when the Badgers have faced off against the Wolverines - and much of it inexplicable. The last Wisconsin win in Michigan Stadium? 1994, a 31-19 win over the Wolverines in Gary Moeller's final year. What about before 1994? Well, you'd have to go back in a freaking time machine to the John F. Kennedy administration and 1962, when QB Ron Vanderkelen was absolutely killin' foes on the way to one of Wisconsin's (8-2) early and brilliant Rose Bowl seasons.
In short, Michigan Stadium has been bad news for Wisconsin football in recent times. For whatever reason Wisconsin isn't quite Wisconsin when they play Michigan in Ann Arbor. No one knows why that is. As a UM fan I'm just grateful the surroundings, fans, stadium, cheese, beer, water....hell, whatever it is....gives Michigan something of an edge. Michigan is definitely going to need that edge again - any edge- this weekend.
So what about 2010's matchup?
Assuming zero turnovers and a great game for both the UM defense and Denard Robinson all wrapped in nice little Maize and Blue package, Michigan has a chance.
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zero turnovers and a great game for both the UM defense and Denard Robinson all wrapped in nice little Maize and Blue package, Michigan has a chance.
I really don’t care which game(although against tOSU would forever shut the RR haters up), but I really really hope to see this against Wisc or to pants bucky(buckeyes not the badgers mascot bucky). A complete game where we don’t look like we’re cartoon characters, freshman and duct-tape with heart.
Personally judging the team on how they’ve played their last 2 season openers(crushing Western then Connecticut, yes I know cupcakes sold in offseason hype GI-Joe wrapping), I think most likely the complete game we’ll see is our Bowl game, where the team comes out prepared and focused(Denard gets a refresher on throwing motion and is reminded he moves at the speed of light and a 4-40 yard gain scrambling is better than a pick). Then the defense gets on the field and Martin splits the double team and wrecks their play action pass to start the game and we get the ball back to go up 14-0 and never look back.
I think we’ll go 8-5 but I’d love 9-4 and settle for not 7-6 as I think we could really really use the momentum of a Bowl win to pick up late undecided recruits and to shut the freep up(not that many of us still read them).
Past results have no bearing on future wins..........
Go Cardinal and White.
The winner of this game
has alternated the last 6 years. There has been a striking correlation between home field advantage and victory. Not sure what this means for Saturday, but if past results DO bear on future results, then Wisconsin might be in trouble.
Given the long history between these two teams – some of the upsets and blowouts as far as Wisconsin is concerned – I can’t imagine any Wisconsin football team EVER taking the Michigan game “lightly”. Then again Wiscy just blasted Indiana by 64 points – not quite the same Indiana team (with Ben Chappell!) that Michigan escaped by an inch of it’s life on the road 42-35. – Wisconsin should win this game decisively on Saturday.
Go Blue!
Michigan has a chance
But I don’t like them. The key to success is to jump on U of M early and then the crowd starts to gripe and complain and turn on the team (coaching staff actually). It has happened in both home losses. Plus Wisconsin plays the same D and offense that Iowa and MSU plays. That has been a very successful recipe in stopping UM. Allowing 65 points to a team that lost to Minnesota at home is not impressive. Beating a Purdue team that could guest star on MASH is not impressive. How have these wins helped to solve anything? Wisconsin – 38 Michigan 27
I agree 100% about the UM wins over Illinois and Purdue
Not impressive, nor does it give anyone in Maize and Blue a warm, fuzzy feeling going into games against the No. 2 and No. 1 scoring offenses in the league over the next two weeks.
As for 4-3 defenses (Iowa’s, MSU’s and Wiscy’s) and “stopping Michigan” I think it really depends. Yes, MSU 2009 and 2010 and Wiscy 2009 definitely stopped Michigan’s spread offense (<300 yards total offense). However, Iowa (with a much more talented DL and secondary IMO) did anything but stop Michigan’s spread offense this year as the Wolverines gained 522 yards in the game.
I still stand by 7-5 for Michigan’s final regular season record this year. Not too shabby considering Michigan’s youth on defense and offense this year.
Go Blue!
four down
I would love for Michigan to win two more in a row however Wisconsin and O.S.U. are not Illinois and Purdue. The defense needs to use four d linemen against Wisconsin or there is going to be 300 pound offensive linemen coming down hill at safeties and linebackers. I hope with the injury bug still biting Martin they will use four linemen to help him and the rest of the d line.
Let me know
When Harbaugh shows up… awe hell I’ll be there Saturday, I mean hell if I can drive to DC to watch a real football team, I can drive the 35 miles to communist arbor for one game this year.
Your Crazy
Even people who want RR gone need to realize that if we bring in a pro style coach, we DO NOT have the players for this offense. I suppose if Harbaugh comes to Ann Arbor, that when he struggles because he has spread players running the offense, you will call for his head also. We have an explosive offense right now, and are just a few recruits and a new DC away from being a 10+ win team next season.
Go Blue and shut these bandwagon fans up.
by Bo The Great! on Nov 17, 2010 9:08 AM CST up reply actions
My worst nightmare
Is for Michigan to win out and save RR his job..
If that happens I will make the complete move to Boise by physically moving myself & company there.. Hell the people of oakland county relected that pile of human debrie gary peters that alone is enough for me to say good ridence to this place.
The metro sucks anyway…
No
Just sick of watching no coaching up of the players.. Sick of watching my be loved Michigan play year in year out at a level of say Less then Toledo.
I see no end of this, there is nothing in the pipe line there is no coaching up of what we got .. there is no hope of being a championship team in the near future with this staff .. nothing against the players…. it’s coaching…
by Darth Prophet on Nov 15, 2010 11:39 PM CST up reply actions
How gulliable is Wisconsin's Defense in 2010 compared to 2008?
Michigan beats Wisconsin, if the Badgers’ defense can still be faked out on a fairly obvious QB keeper. Somehow, I think Denard Robinson might be able to score a few times, given that Steve Threet broke off that 45 yard run, with his three-toed sloth speed.
by AWOOOOO-Werewolves of London on Nov 16, 2010 3:05 PM CST reply actions
Wisconsin's a much improved team over the early season
The sloppy team that opened the year wouldn’t have beaten Ohio State and Iowa. It’s too bad for Badgers fans that it took them until after Michigan State to get things ironed out, but they’re a much better team now. Still not completely trustworthy, as the sluggish Purdue first half showed, which gives hope for today’s game
I'm expecting 100% improvement from the Lions this season.
Wisky defense
Solid against the run, ok against the pass, no pass rush except for Watt who is the best player by a mile, linebackers are active, team tackles well, hold to their assignments.
No good cover guys and no pass rush give makes for a good passing day. But double Watt on the edge.
UM OT Taylor Lewan is probably out with concussion so
doubling Watt on the edge or inside is going to be a big challenge.
Hopefully, somehow, Robinson either gets all day to throw or just takes off.
Go Blue!
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