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SBN's Conference Redraft is a fascinating exercise in  gauging perceived value and desirability of programs familiar to all fans of college sports thing to do because, hey, it's hot outside.  This got us thinking, as uninspiring as a lifetime of watching our team find conference-mates in the likes of Pitt, Oklahoma State, Cal and Memphis, it could be worse. We could be stuck with a lifetime of drinking Iron ("Ahrn") City, Leinie's Red and Crazy Ed's Cave Creek Chili Beer.  So we at Maize n Brew have undertaken a truly important project, The Ultimate Brewery Portfolio Re-Draft!  This will tell us a great many important things, such as: which craft beers could we simply not do without; what breweries are most-loved; and, which of us are actually decent people. Because, after all:

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So, good people, we're calling on you to help us choose our draft/draught pool of beers for the draft itself. We've got stuff we love, but that doesn't alone mean we have the definitive word on beer. We're calling on you to let us know what we should know about and drink. Just as we have with our conference redraft, there are several critical considerations one must take into account prior to the beginning of the draft.  Keep in mind, these are the criteria those actually involved in the draft will need to adhere to.  You, dear reader, will have fewer constraints:

  • Quality: Obviously, this should be the most highly-rated factor.  If you're compiling the ultimate line-up for your dream brewery portfolio you want your beers to be things you actually want to drink.  Just because you've heard Three Floyds' Dark Lord Imperial Stout is supposed to be good isn't reason enough to include it on your list if you've never had it.  And we'll just take care of this tricky little caveat right off the bat; craft beer vs. mass-produced stuff.  That's fine if you love Coors (because your hands won't tell you if a can is cold...), but around these parts we appreciate that great beer is a the result of a craftman's labor and a representation of time hard-spent creating a beverage that reflects said effort. *  While there are technical cut-offs as to what constitutes a craft brewery (Goose Island and Boston Brewing Co. [Sam Adams], through their great success, are over the defined limit) we're more about the spirit of the law than the letter.  In other words, to paraphrase the late US Supreme Court Justice, Potter Stewart, in his definition of hard-core pornography (Jacobellis v. Ohio) "I know it when I see it."  i.e. your inclusion of Bud Lime will not be counted on the draft board. 

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  • Drinkability: This is important.  While you may recognize Founders' Kentucky Breakfast Stout as a superlative beer, do you really find yourself craving an inky-black, 11.2 % ABV, bourbon barrel-aged beer with great regularity?  In many ways this should be the most telling aspect of your selection.  What's your go-to?  In music terms, you might think Radiohead's "Kid A" as a singular work of genius, but chances are you're throwing on a Pink Floyd or Rolling Stones album with far more regularity when wanting to get your groove on.  Again, this doesn't mean you can't select that odd beer, just remember that it's what you're drinking from here on out. What's that?!?  Oh, yeah, we forgot to mention.  This is it.  These are the beers you're bound to for the rest of your life.  No wandering eyes mouths.  This is the tap list for eternity and it's not changing.  
  • Availability:  This is the curve-ball of the bunch.  Yes, it's your portfolio, but you're bound to the realities of the brewing world.  If you live in Milwaukee and are convinced you'll never leave (a good possibility, amIright!?!), then go ahead and select a delicious Wisconsin-only beer from New Glarus.  However, there's something to be said for the ubiquity of Sierra Nevada Pale Ale.
  • Price:  We recognize that this category is completely subjective.  If you've reached a point in your life where a $20 four-pack of Goose Island's Imperial IPA is no big deal ,then good for you.  However, think in terms of your own reality.  As much as I love Three Floyds' Alpha King Pale Ale ($10.99 around most of Chicago) there's a reason I buy Lagunitas' IPA ($8.99) more often.

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You can afford a $500 beer?  Then why isn't someone reading this page to you?

And there are your general ground rules.  The key points worth mentioning as far as the commenting public is concerned are  
  1. This is Leman/Stanzi country.  As such, we shall only be including beers produced in the U.S. of A.
  2. You, the noble commenter, will be limited to a Top 10 (order is unimportant) from which our esteemed board of "owners" will be selecting, eventually to be divided into categories of IPA/APA, Pale Ale, Brown Ale/Porter (yes, they're entirely different but not widely-produced enough to get separate categories), Stout, Lager, Wheat/Hefeweizen, Specialty (think Magic Hat No. 9 or New Glarus Raspberry Tart), Seasonal (eg. Great Lakes' Christmas Ale) and, finally, High Gravity (anything over 7% ABV). Yes, there will be some crossover here (drafters  can choose a Russian Imperial Stout as their stout, high gravity or season [if applicable]) so they'll have effectively gamed the system here, good for them.
  3. Your Top 10 will not be subject to the categorization rules the "owners" will be subject to.  i.e. if you only drink IPAs, go ahead and list 10 IPAs.
  4. The final "Draft Board" from which "owners" shall select will come from the overall Top 12 (in honor of our beloved B1G) in each category.  If there's a category that falls short in commenter contribution then the "owner" is free to select what he/she chooses within the style
Confused?  Good.  Still, we have faith that you'll rise to the occasion and flood our comments section with all sorts of excellent Top 10's.  If you have questions as to what constitutes a stout or porter or hefeweizen, we would refer you to the excellent Beer Advocate website.  While not the final word on the subject, it's "beer styles" section, listed under "Education", is a great starting point.  If there are further questions we welcome them within the fanshots that will be posted all over SBN announcing the event.

And there you have it, friends. These are Your Friday Drinking Instructions.  We shall reconvene here next Friday with the results of the initial draft board.  Go forth and drink list!  

*Please don't waste our time with "beer snob/elitist" comments.  If you enjoy PBR or Milwaukee's Best or whatever who are we to judge?  But that's clearly not the aim of this site and column so we would ask you refrain from needless arguments about what "real" beer is or what "girl" beer is and the like.  Thank you.

Ed. Note - Folks. In an effort to keep our beer commissioner/overlord Kyle McCann't from blowing his brains out trying to keep a list of all the beers we're listing, whilst filtering through the wonderful comments below, please consider moving some of the Beer commentary to our Official Re-Draught Comment Thread. It'll just make Kyle's life a little easier. No worries if you want to keep posting here, but figured I'd ask. Thanks! - Dave]

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Hey Kyle, nice post you have here. Where's all your friend?

Grudingly, I’m willing to submit a list of brews you all should sample. I’m hoping you can find a few of these in that god forsaken place that the civilized world refers to as Fly-over country.

I’ll sort these by brewery.

Bear Republic:
Hop Rod Rye – a great Rye, nice and spicy. Perfect with a well grilled Ribeye.
Racer 5 IPA – I can drink a lot of this stuff

Lagunitas:
Imperial Stout – 9.9% ABV kicks your ass
Wilco Tango Foxtrot – Love the name, nice American Strong Ale, lots of flavor

Russian River:
Pliny the Elder and Pliny the Younger – Sometimes hard to fine, but worth the effort. One is enough, drink responsibly.
Damnation Belgian – the Belgian yeast goes a long way

Ommegang:
Hennepin Farmhouse Saison – Sip it and enjoy
Abbey Ale – the best of the Abbey style ales

If you’re lucky enough to find your self in San Diego, look these ones up – Lost Abbey Devotion Belgian blonde Ale and Hess Ex Umbris Imperial Stout. Very small brewers with very good beer.

Striving for Success with Honor

by Frank O'Brien on Jun 17, 2011 2:15 AM CDT reply actions  

FTFY

that god forsaken place, the “civilized” world

"Pockets full of weed, chewing tobacco, wrapping papers and dental dams"
--HFMR Running the Beermile (tfj @ HawkeyeRecon)

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jun 17, 2011 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some of the reviews for the CECCCB are hilarious

Personal favorite:

It smells like the dirt on the ground [next to the Grand Canyon] where that donkey dragged it’s fly infested anus. Oh, but wait… There are chili pepper thrown in there as well.

Tastes like… Well, one time i ate taco bell for a week and had the worst diarehha. It was so bad my butt hole felt like it was on fire…. Well, this beer tastes like that.
If i could i would lick that donkey’s ass to get this taste out of my mouth.

"Pockets full of weed, chewing tobacco, wrapping papers and dental dams"
--HFMR Running the Beermile (tfj @ HawkeyeRecon)

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jun 17, 2011 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

WOW

After reading that, I can now die happy.

We're gonna go America all over their asses!

by ninerhawk on Jun 22, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Second that on Wilco Tango Foxtrot.

If you like that, I bet you’ll like Brother Thelonius by North Coast Brewing Co. and Arrogant Bastard by Stone Brewing Co. Had either before?

"The only sport that should be cried over is tee ball."
- don't remember who said it, but I like it.

by HookTech on Jun 18, 2011 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

You know me, stick with the easy domestics.

Landshark Lager

Harp Lager

Coors Original

Michelob ShockTop

Bud Light

Michelob Golden Light

Special Export Light

MGD

Widmer Brothers’ Hefeweizen

Negro Modelo Especial

(Yes, I know these picks aren’t sexy, nor very expensive. But I prefer my beers cold and gold. I’m not big on hoppy stuff, and I tolerate malty stuff but don’t love it).

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jun 17, 2011 2:31 AM CDT reply actions  

Yep, I forgot to omit the "foreign" beers.

Replace Harp and Negro Modelo with,

Michelob Lager

and

Miller High Life.

(I noticed a few people below included Yuengling. I have got to get some one of these days. I wish I had been smart enough to bring back a few cases from when I was out east [do they sell it in Connecticut?] about two years ago.)

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jun 17, 2011 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just because it's labeled as America's attic

doesn’t mean it’s part of the US. ;)

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by Maize n Brew Dave on Jun 17, 2011 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ok, here's a quick Top 10 off the top of my head

1. Stone Brewing Ruination
2. Three Floyd’s Dreadnaught
3. Firestone Walker Double Jack
4. Lagunitas Czech-Style Pils
5. Half Acre Over Ale
6. Half Acre Daisy Cutter
7. Bell’s Two-Hearted Ale
8. Bell’s Hopslam (duh)
9. Bell’s Oberon
10. Boulevard Unfiltered Wheat

/winks hard

by Bucketochicken on Jun 17, 2011 7:06 AM CDT reply actions  

Anything from Stone.

Their IPA is also over the top.

by Caliowan on Jun 17, 2011 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Honorable Mention

to Goose Island Green Line.

So awesome and guzzleable.

/winks hard

by Bucketochicken on Jun 17, 2011 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm.

You know what? Fuck it. You’re out, Over Ale. Green Line in at number 6.

/winks hard

by Bucketochicken on Jun 17, 2011 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yup

Green Line is a stellar beverage. Surprisingly refreshing for a Goose product, after taste is nice, goes down smoothly but has tremendous flavor for such a light feeling beer. Definitely one of those “desert island” kind of beers that you’d love to have on a parching day.

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by Maize n Brew Dave on Jun 17, 2011 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mmmm beer

1. Left Hand’s Milk Stout
2. Bell’s Two Hearted Ale
3. Three Floyd’s Gumballhead
4. Sierra Nevada IPA
5. Lafayette Brewing Company’s Oatmeal Stout
6. Bell’s Oberon
7. Red Hook’s Longhammer IPA
8. Upland Wheat
9. Yuengling Lager
10. Pabst Blue Ribbon

You can feel good, good about Hood

by Rod Farva on Jun 17, 2011 7:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Just to clarify:

Sierra Nevada Pale Ale or Sierra Nevada Torpedo IPA?

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jun 17, 2011 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

but not always available and never on sale

the pale on tap is also much better than out of the bottle (I’e never had Torpedo on tap)

You can feel good, good about Hood

by Rod Farva on Jun 17, 2011 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

fair enough

I’ve had some weird variations of the Pale Ale, probably due to poor taps and dirty lines, so I’m a little biased on that. I’m sure that if I had the real thing out of a well maintained line I’d enjoy it. But in terms of right out of the bottle, I’m a big fan of the Torpedo.

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by Maize n Brew Dave on Jun 17, 2011 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Can't argue with you either

Torpedo is a damn good beer

You can feel good, good about Hood

by Rod Farva on Jun 17, 2011 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Torpedo

is one of the few beers that I can remember trying for the first time on tap. I was at Stone Brewery with a couple of buddies and we all ordered a sample and ended up drinking about four pints each.Since then Torpedo on tap is my holy grail for beer. I worked in Oakland for six months and have to say every place you go has great beer on tap.Sierra Navada puts out a bunch of small batchs people outside the bay never get to try. If you see it, the Celebration ale is a winner.

Go Blue!!

by bluewolverine on Jun 17, 2011 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd love to get my hands on a 16oz chilled glass of those small batch brews

Such a great, great brewery. Tough to get the good stuff from Cali in the middle west.

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Because Football is Better with Beer

by Maize n Brew Dave on Jun 17, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Celebration Ale

Actually, Celebration has made it’s way as far off as Florida. Torpedo is also at our local ABC Licquor… but then again, Florida is a bunch of drunks

The mere hiring of Coach Hoke has sent Pryor and Tressel packing...

by DrBogue on Jun 17, 2011 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm.

We need a fanpost FAQ for this type of discussion (which I wholly endorse because we’re talking about beer) as not to gum up the potentially daunting task of having to sift through this page later.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jun 17, 2011 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

My bad

Pale Ale, not Torpedo

You can feel good, good about Hood

by Rod Farva on Jun 17, 2011 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

d'oh!!

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by Maize n Brew Dave on Jun 17, 2011 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

LBC!

Boiler UP!

>Hoosier by birth, Boilermaker by the grace of God
>Don't cry for me, MSU --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycDSLYHJHwo

by sea.of.white on Jun 17, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

The U.S. of A restriction is killin' me.

Yuengling Black ‘n Tan
Yuengling Lord Chesterfield
Shiner Bock
Shiner Black
Flying Dog Doggie Style Pale Ale
Breckenridge Vanilla Porter
Church Brew Works’ Belgian Strong Ale
Magic Hat Circus Boy
Dixie Blackened Voodoo Lager
Wild Blue Blueberry Lager

by SlingStone on Jun 17, 2011 8:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Why?

This is the Wild West of brewing! There’s a reason the Belgians are copying us now. Get out there and explore!

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jun 17, 2011 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

The USA-only rule got me excited about making my list.

I'm just here for the beer.

by Illegal Formation on Jun 17, 2011 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

shit, drop wild blue for Brother Thelonious from North Coast brewing company. So much better for someone who actually likes the taste of beer. Wild Blue is tasty, but like candy.

by SlingStone on Jun 17, 2011 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

my favorite

mmmmmmmm

Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts. - R. Feynman

by GBB4188 on Jun 17, 2011 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brother T is a great choice

had it once at a beer tasting and even bought a t-shirt (I’m also a big fan of Thelonius the musician)

I haven’t seen the beer in stores since unfortunately

You can feel good, good about Hood

by Rod Farva on Jun 17, 2011 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

You can get it off the shelf at any BevMo out here in California

I believe BevMo also ships out of state.

Science is the belief in the ignorance of experts. - R. Feynman

by GBB4188 on Jun 17, 2011 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I once had a pitcher of Flying Dog D-Style.

It was awful.

We will become more intensity!!! --What Reading Rambler thinks Tom Brands should do.

by WaterlooChazz on Jun 17, 2011 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

A fellow Shiner fan....

very nice. I’ve been wanting to try the Shiner Black

>Hoosier by birth, Boilermaker by the grace of God
>Don't cry for me, MSU --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycDSLYHJHwo

by sea.of.white on Jun 17, 2011 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Shiner Black is pretty good.

I’ve not had a lot of black beer, so I don’t have much of a reference point, but it was chocolatey without tasting like chocolate (if that makes sense) while still remaining… I guess “smooth” is a good way to put it, though it’s not the word I’d use if I could think of the right word.

Just try it. Writing about a type of beer I know little about is hard, but it was good.

I was surprised when I picked up a Shiner Family Reunion 6er- – I didn’t expect much and 5 of the 6 knocked my expectations out cold (the other was good, but not “wow, this is way better than expected”).

While reading the groundrules I thought I’d make a joke about adding Shiner as the Baylor of beer (often better than you expect from them, but not setting the world on fire), and about adding the entire Pabst Brewing Company (PBR, Lone Star, Schlitz, Old Style, Colt 45, and of course, St. Ides) because everyone needs a jNW to make fun of (plenty of money to play with, but the finished product doesn’t seem like it’s worth the investment).
Neither is a perfect, or even well thought out analogy, but like I said, it was a joke.

"Pockets full of weed, chewing tobacco, wrapping papers and dental dams"
--HFMR Running the Beermile (tfj @ HawkeyeRecon)

by Eyeheartfreedumb on Jun 17, 2011 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Love Shiner Bock!

"Ignorance is the parent of fear." ~Melville

by johnnycougar on Jun 17, 2011 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

BVP is amazing. Makes me want to move back out there.

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A T-bone steak, cheese, eggs, and Welch's grape.
@scrappled
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by Run Up The Score on Jun 20, 2011 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Same here!

Unfortunately I don’t have a list of ten for this list, as my top beers are all Australian >.<
At least I’ve verified for myself that Aussie is better than European.

I come from a land down unda

by BoilerRoo on Jun 20, 2011 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh I know.

But my most recent loves have been from Belgium, Canada, and the UK. Unibroue, Belhaven, and Trappist styles.

by SlingStone on Jun 17, 2011 8:49 AM CDT reply actions  

I will come up with a comprehensive list shortly

But, Stone Smoked Porter is hands down the most delicious beer I have ever had.

"Penn State is the standard for success with honor. Period. I can’t even believe we’re even discussing that" - ReadingRambler

by psuphysicist on Jun 17, 2011 8:55 AM CDT reply actions  

If you like that

try Alaskan Brewing Co.’s Smoked Porter. Liquid bacon.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jun 17, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Absolutely True.

I have a case of this shipped to CO every 2-3 years.

greg in denver, UCLA guy for life - BruinsNation.com

by gbruin on Jun 19, 2011 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

In no particular order:
Founder’s Breakfast Stout
Avery Out of Bounds Stout
21st Amendment Back in Black (black IPA)
Brooklyn IPA
Flying Dog Doggie Style Pale Ale
Rogue Brutal Bitter (where do bitters go? with pale ales?)
Victory Prima Pils
Penn Dark
Brooklyn Lager

While I respect your decision to ban Boston Brewing, I feel obligated to say that I think Sam Adams has grown wildly popular for a reason: Sam Adams Boston Lager is the best American lager with good availability (draft only; bottles are only pretty good). I would sub out Brooklyn for Sam if I could – I just wanted that flavor profile to be represented.

I'm just here for the beer.

by Illegal Formation on Jun 17, 2011 9:18 AM CDT reply actions  

NOOOOOOO!

I’m not banning BBC! That’s why I mentioned that, although from a strict definition, neither BBC or Goose Island are considered craft breweries, their hearts and pasts are clearly rooted in that community. Please include them if you want.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jun 17, 2011 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sorry.

I guess I read that too quickly. A thousand pardons.

I'm just here for the beer.

by Illegal Formation on Jun 17, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

We Are....Beer

1. Ommegang Abbey Ale

2. Pliny The Younger – Russian River Brewing Company

3. Pliny the Elder – Russian River Brewing Company

4. Founders Kentucky Breakfast Stout

5. AleSmith Speedway Stout

6. Veritas 009 – The Lost Abbey Brewery

7. Abacus – Firestone Walker Brewing Company

8. Cable Car Ale – The Lost Abbey Brewery

9. Yuengling Traditional Lager

10. Fancy Lawnmower Beer – St. Arnold Brewery

Bonus

11. Pryor’s Priors Everybody Does It Tattoo Me Ale – Tressel and Kniffin Brewery

by Pentimental on Jun 17, 2011 9:19 AM CDT reply actions   4 recs

glorious use of the photo upload

rec’d

Must…. Drink…. Beer…..

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by Maize n Brew Dave on Jun 17, 2011 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Vinny is such a sick brewer.

Hey, can you start rec-ing this fanpost on BHGP; there aren’t enough Iowan degenerates over here yet.

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jun 17, 2011 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Love me some St. Arnold's Fancy Lawnmower.

That’s going on my list, which I am dreaming up now.

by PSUWifey on Jun 17, 2011 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll give it a whirl

1. Roy Pitts Best Blonde Ale
2. Roy Pitts Chicken Leg Oatmeal Stout
3. Rogue Dead Guy
3. Troegs Nugget Nectar
4. Troegs Troegenator Double Bock
5. Lancaster Milk Stout
6. Stone Oaked Arrogant Bastard Ale
7. Erie Brewing Company Railbender Ale
8. Weyerbacher Brewing Company Merry Monks Ale
9. Weyerbacher Brewing Company Blithering Idiot
10. Oskar Blues Dale’s Pale Ale

Can you tell I’m from PA?? It was the accent wasn’t it?

by snydo5976 on Jun 17, 2011 9:20 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't drink nearly enough Roy Pitz stuff.

It’s local, but I swear I can’t find it anywhere.

Lancaster’s milk stout is severely underrated, and delicious in combination with their strawberry wheat.

--
A T-bone steak, cheese, eggs, and Welch's grape.
@scrappled
Slow States - Football, music, craft beer, and podcasts with an industrial slant.

by Run Up The Score on Jun 20, 2011 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Chambersburg beer

I coached the one owner in little league. Its probably easier to find in Philly than Harrisburg. I know they are on some taps in Carlisle too. I’m becoming a fan of the Lancaster brews.

My grammer skills need improved.

by BMAN13 on Jun 22, 2011 7:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have to admit

I live in Chambersburg and I have never had a Roy Pitz brew that I enjoyed.

by PenNut on Jun 22, 2011 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mmmm beer....

Here goes….

Dogfish Head – Raison D’etre. How many beer adjuncts can you cram into 1 brew and still be able to tolerate it? Quite simply a fantastic brew from one of my favorite brewers!

Bell’s Oberon – What would a summer be without a pitcher of this K-zoo brew at Dominic’s?

Shipyard’s Pumpkin Ale – I think I literally drink about 3 cases of this stuff in the fall watching Michigan football. Of course, I’m in south Florida, and the closest we get to fall colors is leaving a dead palm frond on the coconut tree.

Sam Adam’s Cherry Wheat – Stickin’ with the fruit here. Very few wheat beers can deliver a subtle (read – no sour mash) cherry flavor without ruining the beer. Love this stuff, and the cherries I believe are from Michigan.

Rogue’s Double Dead Guy – I reserve this wonderful ale for the first beer at noon prior to a 3:30 game time. Why not the more available single Dead Guy? Because in this case double is more than 1+1

Dogfish Head Burton Baton – Okay, this is the rarer of the group mostly b/c it’s only brewed occasionally. A mix of two traditional beers (one hopped out badass, and a traditional English bitter), this is absolutely one of the finest beers in the high ABV category that you could drink a mini-keg of without a problem. That is of course, until you fell off the barstool. Then you need someone to pour it in your gullet.

Oskar Brewery’s Ten-FIDY Stout – This is not your father’s Guinness. No bottling by this CO brewery, just good old aluminum cans to stop those evil UV rays from destroying your cold tasty beverage.

Pete’s Wicked Ale – It’s been awhile since I’ve had this as I can’t get it where I live, but this was my staple at UofM. Just an easy drinkin’, wonderful ale.

Anchor Steam – Again, another staple of my refrigerator. Love this easy drinkin’ brew.

Great Lakes Brewing Company’s Christmas Ale – One I can only get up North, but oh how I love the complexity of this brew. Not sure if the label influences me, but it does remind me of cold Michigan wintery days.

Too bad we can’t include anything from across the pond – but if you want to treat yourself to a magical brew → Young’s Double Chocolate Stout is the best representation I’ve had of how to get a chocolate flavor in a stout without sweetening up the stout or making you feel like you are a woman when you drink it.

Great. Now I’m thirsty!

The mere hiring of Coach Hoke has sent Pryor and Tressel packing...

by DrBogue on Jun 17, 2011 9:30 AM CDT reply actions  

Oops, Sam got in there

Okay, late removal of Sam Adams Cherry Wheat. Substituting Ommegang’s Abbey Ale. This one makes me feel monkish. Yum.

The mere hiring of Coach Hoke has sent Pryor and Tressel packing...

by DrBogue on Jun 17, 2011 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Brooklyn Dark Chocolate Stout is an excellent alternative to Young’s Double Chocolate Stout. Which one I like more depends on my mood though it’s worth pointing out the Brooklyn makes there’s without actually adding chocolate to the beer while Young’s does.

by wrb9 on Jun 17, 2011 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

nice suggestion. I’ll stop by my beer depot and pick up a case. if no cocoa added, are they achieving it with the yeast esters? sounds like my favorite test is coming up this weekend – a beer taste test

The mere hiring of Coach Hoke has sent Pryor and Tressel packing...

by DrBogue on Jun 17, 2011 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think they achieve the taste primarily from using very dark roasted barleys, which will have chocolate or coffee characteristics.

by wrb9 on Jun 17, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cannot go wrong with Dogfish head

I think they are rebrewing thier 120 minute IPA soon. first time in like 2 years.

by billb on Jun 17, 2011 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hooray Beer

The Quality vs Availability makes this difficult but here goes in no particular order:

1) Saranac Pomegranate Wheat – In general I’m not a fan of fruit in beers but you really can’t taste the fruit in here, it’s just really good. Probably my favorite beer overall but hard to get outside of the northeast.

2) Brooklyn Dark Chocolate Stout – Absolutely Delicious, pretty good distribution, more of a dessert beer though.

3) Bells Oberon – Very good (especially with an orange slice), good availability in Michigan, not as much nationally though.

4) Anchor Liberty Ale – A bit harder to find than Anchor Steam but in my opinion also better (though you can’t go wrong with Anchor Steam either)

5) Captain Lawrence Imperial IPA – Young brewery, currently very hard to find outside of the NYC area but expanding. They make a lot of good stuff but I’ll nominate this one for my list.

6) Sierra Nevada Pale Ale – Solid, widely available.

7) Magic Hat #9 – I’ve never had another beer quite like #9 (whereas a lot of pale ales (or ipas) can taste very similar) Furthermore its widely available and good.

8) Ommegang Three Philosophers – Ommegang makes some of the best Belgian Style beer in the US and Three Philosophers is there best.

9) Ithaca Nut Brown – Hard to find outside of NY and PA but a very tasty nutty beer.

10) Sam Adams Boston Lager – This probaly isn’t my favorite Sam Adam’s but it can be found anywhere in the US. For its level of distribution it can’t be beat.

  • I feel that my list really needs a good malty Pilsner style lager but I can’t think of an American one that I really like. This is probably because most microbreweries primarily make ales since the fermentation time of ales is less than that of lagers by a substantial amount. Does anyone have any recommendations for a good US Pilsner?

by wrb9 on Jun 17, 2011 9:54 AM CDT reply actions  

How big is that brewery?

Haven’t heard of Boulevard before.

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by Maize n Brew Dave on Jun 19, 2011 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Its a pretty large old factory.

I was in KC in October and the Boulevard beers were all I drank, while enjoying 2 meals in one week from Oklahoma Joes. Very good. I didn’t have time to do a tour, I think they were only Fri, Sat Sun, as I was flying out on Friday morning. Not sure their output but the building was quite large.

My grammer skills need improved.

by BMAN13 on Jun 19, 2011 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

600K barrels according to the website.

Again according to the website it is available in the following states: Missouri, Kansas, Nebraska, Iowa, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Indiana, North Dakota, South Dakota, Wyoming, Idaho, Oregon, Washington, and Alaska, with partial distribution in Colorado, Illinois, Minnesota, Alabama, Utah, and Texas. Their Unfiltered Wheat is probably the most popular.

by Carfino'sWay on Jun 19, 2011 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

They're big

and, as of a few weeks ago, available in Chicago. I’ll bring some over.

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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 20, 2011 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

excellent

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by Maize n Brew Dave on Jun 20, 2011 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

be sure to at least try a bottle of The Sixth Glass

(what the hell am I doing? if you all start liking the best beer brewed, there won’t be any left for me!!! LOL)

by WarBuck46410 on Jun 20, 2011 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wish I could remember who rec'd it to me, maybe it was KMcC.

But Boulevard’s “The Sixth Glass” is unbelievably good. Their Long Strange Tripel is just slightly less unbelievably good.

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by Run Up The Score on Jun 20, 2011 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

concur 100%

      Boulevard (out of Kansas City) makes some great beers; is becoming more available.

      The Sixth Glass (a belgian-style quad) is the best. (But careful with it; it will spew like shaken champagne). Alcohol content is 10%+ I have a bottle every game day. Absolutely love it.

      I’ll have to try the Tripel.

by WarBuck46410 on Jun 20, 2011 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are they the makers of Doublewide IPA?

It’s a pretty good IPA… if you like that sort of thing…

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by JuJuan some Moore? on Jun 19, 2011 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think we found a single bottle of the Double wide at Dirty John's

the last time my wife and I were in IC. Unfortunately, we were picking up unusual things for my buddy, so I didn’t get to try it

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by chitownhawkeye on Jun 20, 2011 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Does Dirty John's still have that bottle of like '45 Lafitte Rothschild in the wine case?

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by leeharvey418 on Jun 20, 2011 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Everyone, please Rec the main post above

That way I can put it in the top right Box for highest rec’d posts and it’s easy to access going forward.

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by Maize n Brew Dave on Jun 17, 2011 10:00 AM CDT reply actions  

My 10

Like SlingStone, my love of european booze is a tad bit of a hinderance here. Still, there are plenty of tasty malty, hoppy, domestic treats to choose from.

New Holland Brewery’s Mad Hatter IPA
Bell’s Two Hearted Ale
Half Acre Daisy Cutter
Capital Brewery Tet Doppelbock
Capital Brewery Blonde Doppelbock (yes, I’m claiming two doppelbocks. And no, I can’t live without them.)
Great Lakes Oktoberfest
Omegang BPA
New Belgium Fat Tire
Three Floyds Gumball Head
Great Lakes’ Christmas Ale

As a separate, I love the Sam Adams and Leinenkugel Oktoberfest are great as well. Would also throw in the Goose Island Green Line as an additional.

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by Maize n Brew Dave on Jun 17, 2011 10:13 AM CDT reply actions  

capital brewery as in

Washington DC Capital Brewing company next to Union Station? Love that place!

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by DrBogue on Jun 17, 2011 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Capital Brewery in Wisconsin

Absolutely my favorite brewery in the States.

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by Maize n Brew Dave on Jun 17, 2011 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh...

And I’ve spent many an hour, and dollar, at the CBC. Years of working in the Senate and proximity to same made it a favorite.

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by Maize n Brew Dave on Jun 17, 2011 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just found out that they are offering some of their beers for $2 on Tuesdays. Yes, a $2 craft beer in DC. I was floored.

I'm just here for the beer.

by Illegal Formation on Jun 17, 2011 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

And what’s best about CBC is it’s proximity to the Dubliner and that ****-kicker Irish bar next door when you need some “Alice! Alice! Who the **** is Alice!”…

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by DrBogue on Jun 17, 2011 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Irish Times is a disaster

Loved that place when I was 22-23 tho. Now I go back and wonder how I didn’t get hepatitis from touching the bar stools.

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by Maize n Brew Dave on Jun 17, 2011 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cosigned

I mostly stayed at The Dubliner, circa similar age. Had a grand night once with a couple buds and a barkeep named Rosie. We kept pestering for her to pour a shamrock in our Guinness, til she finally popped: ‘hey, fuck the shamrock, alright?’ in a musical Irish brogue. Still rings in my ears to this day.

But yeah. Irish Times: a beautifully disgusting pub.

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by jtothep on Jun 17, 2011 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've no business chiming in on this here website,

but I’m bored, so here are my top ten. Numbers one and two are the frontrunners, whereas the rest just sorta mishmash together and could take any of the 3-10 spots depending on how I’m feeling on any given day.

1. Dogfish Head 90 Minute IPA – Try to beat it. You can’t.
2. Abita Andygator – A light yet high-gravity pilsner that comes in a 22oz bottle. Many an odd night in New Orleans have started with Andygator.
3. Sam Adams Noble Pils – Hoppy but not too bitingly bitter.
4. Abita Amber – Probably the most well recognized beer produced in the dirty dirty.
5. Session Lager – Sharp lager that has a very traditional taste.
6. Lazy Magnolia Southern Pecan – I had to educate y’all on Lazy Mag. This stuff is brewed in a tiny town on the Mississippi Gulf Coast and has developed a bit of a cult following in Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida. It’s a unique brown ale which has a bit of a nutty flavor and aroma. It might be a bit on the sweet side for some, but if only having a beer or two with a meal, it’s a good choice. It’s not something to get drunk off of. They don’t distribute it any further north than Memphis, and they don’t plan on changing that anytime soon.
7. Ommegang Abby Ale – Fantastic.
8. Bell’s Oberon – Also fantastic.
9. Great Lakes Lake Erie Monster – Hoppy and sweet. Great to accompany red meat. Drinks more like a wine than a beer.
10. Sierra Nevada Pale Ale – A classic.

There are like a gajillion others that I could include because I am sorta obsessed with craft brewed American beers. After living in Germany and having Germans tell me that our beer is shit (even though they’ve never set foot in the States), I made it my personal mission to discover as much about American beer as I can. What I learned was that the variety and regional variation we have here is as diverse as anywhere in the world, if not more so, and our craft brews are entirely to thank for that.

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Jun 17, 2011 10:26 AM CDT reply actions   4 recs

After living in Germany and having Germans tell me that our beer is shit (even though they’ve never set foot in the States), I made it my personal mission to discover as much about American beer as I can. What I learned was that the variety and regional variation we have here is as diverse as anywhere in the world, if not more so, and our craft brews are entirely to thank for that.

Rec’d for awesomeness.

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by Maize n Brew Dave on Jun 17, 2011 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Welcome! Thanks for stopping by and

by all means spread the word amongst your SEC brethren.

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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 17, 2011 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately, until the American Beer Revolution, they were mostly right. Stereotypes are difficult to overcome. Prohibition was the difference and the relaxation of brewing laws was the cure.

by Pentimental on Jun 17, 2011 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Looks like somebody's seen Beer Wars!

This is all true. If your only impression of American beer is Budweiser, Coors, and Miller, then of course you’re going to think that our beers are cheap, bland, and watery.

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Jun 17, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have never seen Beer Wars, actually. Is it still broadcasting? I am the youngest in the family and the first born in America. We hail from Germany and the Netherlands. My siblings live in Belgium, Aruba, Italy, Florida, and Pennsylvania. I have lived in seven states from the north shore of Long Island to the south shore of Oahu and many points in between. My wife works for an airline, so I have travelled the world.

I know all about the prejudices against American beer. I have personally changed the minds of several Europeans who have graced these shores. Sorry for the rant. This is a passionate subject. Is it five o’clock?

by Pentimental on Jun 17, 2011 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's always 5 oclock somewhere

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by DrBogue on Jun 17, 2011 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a documentary. You can get it on Netflix or Hulu.

It’s excellent. It talks about the impact prohibition still has on the American alcohol industry today, as well as the increasingly discerning palate of American drinkers. They interivew, among many others, Sam Caglione, the founder of Dogfish Head which just so happens to be my favorite brewery.

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Jun 17, 2011 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great Movie

Whatever happened to that caffeine beer? Probably not much since the Government went all regulatory on mixing caffeine in your beer. Silly congressmen.

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by DrBogue on Jun 17, 2011 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you're in New Orleans and not drinking Abita, you're simply not drinking

I’ll go ahead and nominate the casual Abita Strawberry Harvest Lager during these sweltering summer months for the win.

Casually.

by CasualHoya on Jun 17, 2011 10:27 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Sadly, this shit's out of season already.

I haven’t seen a bottle of the stuff anywhere in or around DC since like April or something.

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Jun 17, 2011 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Excellent topic

My regards.

1. Four Peaks 8th Street Ale: This is a tiny brewery in Tempe, Arizona and boy does this beer rock.
2. Magic Hat #9: Being from Vermont, I think this beer is amazing. I flew out a case in my suitcase last summer because they don’t sell it west of Texas yet.
3. Bell’s Oberon: I’ve seen some love for this beer so far and it’s well deserved. Very drinkable, a good quality beer whether you’re poolside or in a tavern.
4. Left Hand Sawtooth Ale: For some reason I like this beer, but it’s hit or miss. I’m not sure the brewery has the flavor on lockdown yet.

That’s all for now.

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by Cory Williams on Jun 17, 2011 10:30 AM CDT reply actions  

From Tampa, I have just one suggestion

Cigar City Brewery Jai Alai IPA.

If you can find the White Oak version even better.

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by Ken DeCelles on Jun 17, 2011 10:33 AM CDT reply actions  

Awesome

/begins working extra feverishly to carve out decent time for a response this afternoon.

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by jtothep on Jun 17, 2011 11:20 AM CDT reply actions  

A few not mentioned

Lot’s of good ones mentioned above but these are local (to me) beers I like:

Thirsty Goat Amber-Thirsty Planet Brewin Co. Austin, TX
Fireman’s 4 – Real Ale Blanco, TX
Stash IPA-Independence Brewing Co. Austin, TX
512 Pecan Porter-512 Brewing Co. Austin, TX
Live Oak Pilz- Live Oak Brewing Co. Austin, TX

by billb on Jun 17, 2011 11:26 AM CDT reply actions  

Live Oak Hefeweizen is the best example of the style

not brewed in Germany. Hell, it’s better than a lot of German Hefes.

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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 17, 2011 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Those austin brews are just phenomenal

I wish we could get more of them in Chicago.

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by Maize n Brew Dave on Jun 17, 2011 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Top 10

1.) Great Lakes Brewing Co. (OHIO) – Edmond Fitzgerald
2.) Breckenridge (COLORADO) – Vanilla Porter
3.) Bells (MICHIGAN) – Amber
4.) Upland (INDIANA) – Wheat
5.) Bells (MICHIGAN) – Oberon
6.) Goose Island (ILLINOIS) – 312
7.) Great Lakes Brewing Co. (OHIO) – Burning River (also a nice history reference to the polluted rivers of Ohio!)
8.) Flying Dog (MARYLAND) – Gonzo Imperial Porter (Very Potent stuff, but good none the less!)
9.) Leinenkugel (WISCONSIN) – Summer Shandy/Sunset Wheat (I have to be in a certain mood for these… especially good after a long days work on Hot Summer Days!)
10.) Great Lakes (OHIO) – Oktoberfest (I tend to like all Oktoberfest beers, but this is my favorite… other than the German breweries, of course!)

Really, I like anything from Great Lakes, Bells, and Breckenridge… All three make a variety of delicious brews. I also went through a Leinies phase… But I think I finally grew out of it (except for on hot days!)

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by JuJuan some Moore? on Jun 17, 2011 11:50 AM CDT reply actions  

I really liked Summer Shandy before I had Harpoon's Summer Beer.

Now Shandy is almost too sweet for me. However, that doesn’t mean I won’t have one on a hot day or at a Royals game.

by Carfino'sWay on Jun 18, 2011 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

God, that's a fantastic user name.

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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 17, 2011 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

To bad I spelled

JaJuan’s first name wrong and didn’t recognize it until after I signed up… Oh Well…

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by JuJuan some Moore? on Jun 18, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Looks like John will be handling the H&R responsibilities

But here are my 10.

Breckenridge Brewery Avalanche Ale
Alaskan Brewking Co. Amber – It kills me the closest place I can get this is Denver
Key West Sunset Ale
Kona Brewing Co. Lavaman Red
Waimea Brewing Co. Canefire Red – Very hard to find, only sold at the Westernmost Brewpub in the world, but incredible.
Sam Adams Oktoberfest
Shipyard Brewing Pumpkin
Yuengling Lager
Upland Brewing Co. Rad Red
Kona Brewing Co. Fire Rock pale

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by BoilerTMill on Jun 17, 2011 11:57 AM CDT reply actions  

How about I bring some Northwest flavor to your list?

Don’t know how available some of these are, but up here in great state of Washington, we get some of the best beer in the country in our state. Some of these are from Seattle, but most are from the Portland area. It’s pretty much the only thing Oregon does better than us. Well, except for play college football. But whatever.

- Rogue Dead Guy Ale
- Pike Brewing Scotch style Pike Kilt Lifter Ruby Ale
- Ninkasi Total Domination IPA
- Ninkasi Tricerahops Double IPA (I haven’t actually had this yet, but so many of our readers have recommended it, that I put it on the list anyway)
- MacTarnahan’s Amber Ale
- Widmer Hefeweisen
- Widmer Drop Top Amber Ale

For seasonals, pretty much nobody beats Deschutes in my book. All are excellent.
- Red Chair Northwest Pale Ale
- Twilight Summer Ale
- Jubelale

That’s off the top of my head. I’ll try and send some of my readers over for more.

by Jeff Nusser on Jun 17, 2011 12:18 PM CDT reply actions  

I went to Seattle a few years back...

I was on a massive hefeweisen kick at the time. So I get out there, and everywhere I look it’s Widmer this and Widmer that. Of course I had to try it…

Not to disparage your state, but I was underwhelmed.

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by leeharvey418 on Jun 17, 2011 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

You won't find most of what I just listed on tap in most places.

Although, it’s getting a lot better, even in the last two years. It’s also becoming easier to find true craft brews in grocery stores.

by Jeff Nusser on Jun 17, 2011 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is a Portland beer

Hefs aren’t the biggest thing out here though, I would say Ambers and IPAs are.

If anyone ever finds themselves in Mukilteo, WA I highly recommend visiting the Diamond Knot Brewery. 3 of their Industrial IPAs will do wonders to your BAC.

by B-Lot tailgater on Jun 17, 2011 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

We Oregonians don’t drink Widmer. We let other people drink that or use it as a gateway from bad beer to good beer.

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by JShufelt on Jun 17, 2011 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

For those jonesing for more beer talk

Official beer-talk thread! Sorry guys, I’m going to have a tough time compiling the list as is, keeping the thread clear of divergent topics will be hugely helpful…(sigh) I’m such a dad.

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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 17, 2011 12:24 PM CDT reply actions  

I'll have a go...

Yuengling Porter
Yuengling Lord Chesterfield Ale
Porter and Chesterfield in the same glass
Victory Hop Devil IPA
Stoudt’s Oktoberfest
Bell’s Cherry Stout
Celis Raspberry Wheat
Saranac Pilsner
Saranac Black Forest
Gordon Biersch Märzen
…and an alternate in case the mixing is disallowed: Avery’s The Beast

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by leeharvey418 on Jun 17, 2011 12:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Sam Adams is Craft

Great article! I don’t want to nitpick, but Sam Adams is still well under the Brewers Association (BA) production limits for being a craft brand and is still regarded as craft by the BA. The limit for the BA to define a brewery is now 6 million barrels of annual production (same as the excise tax cutoff for the federal government) and Sam Adams produced about 2 million barrels last year.

Having said that, they are, by far, the largest producer of craft beer in the US, but not anywhere close to being in league with MillerCoors (85 million barrels) or ABI (100 million barrels). And in every other regard of the definition of craft, Sam Adams fits.

by Bob Mack on Jun 17, 2011 12:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Goose Island

One more thought – Goose Island is not “over the limit” either. They brew far under the amount of beer that is defined as craft. Goose Island is not defined as craft because they are owned by Anheuser Busch. The Brewers Association does not call any brewer that is owned by a “non craft” brewer a craft brewery. Goose has been partially owned by ABI since 2006 and as of this year, they are 100% owned by ABI.

by Bob Mack on Jun 17, 2011 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

My 10 in no particular order

1) Sam Adams Oktoberfest
2) Pyramid Hefeweisen
3) Widmer Hefeweisen
4) Widmer Drop Top Amber Ale
5) Alaskan Amber
6) Goose Island Honker’s Ale
7) Mack & Jack’s African Amber
8) Deschutes Obsidian Stout
9) New Belgium Abbey Ale
10) Blue Moon Harvest Pumpkin Ale

As I’m only a little beer snobby I often can’t remember the names of the “really good” beers I’ve had the last few years, but these 10 are what I usually get if I see them on tap.

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by johnnycougar on Jun 17, 2011 12:57 PM CDT reply actions  

I forgot how great Saranac BF is. Does anywaher in Michigan sell this?

by wrb9 on Jun 17, 2011 12:58 PM CDT reply actions  

I did a search on their site and had to go 100 miles out from Brighton to get a hit.

Apparently three places in Toledo carry Saranac.

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by leeharvey418 on Jun 17, 2011 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

As you head west to Nebraska, consider these

Leinenkugel’s Creamy Dark. It’s awfully good for something you can usually pick up (here) for $6.99 a sixer, and isn’t nearly as heavy as going DOUBLE CHOCOLATE IMPERIAL OATMEAL all the time.

From the Omaha/Lincoln area:

Empyrean Ale’s Vanilla Porter; not nearly as vanilla-y as Breckenridges, but has enough of a touch that you taste it.
Empyrean Ale’s Burning Skye Scottish Ale. Oh, heavens, is this good. It’s got a lovely smoked aftertaste that I can bore people with like scotch drinkers do when they start talking about peat.

From farther west, but highly available:

Big Sky Brewing’s Moose Drool Brown Ale – all the flavor of a Guinness without the weight.

by Albino Tornado on Jun 17, 2011 1:01 PM CDT reply actions  

There it is

I was wondering when I would see Empyrean on someone’s list; it is one of my favorite little breweries and the Vanilla Porter is one of my favorites. I’m just going to wing a top 10 that comes to mind – but mind you I’ve only been drinking (legally) for less than a year*.

1) Empyrean Darkside Vanilla Porter
2) Empyrean Third Stone Brown
3) Flying Dog In Heat Wheat (Had Paulaner Hefeweizen down before I remembered this is ‘Merica)
4) Left Hand Brewing Good Juju
5) New Belgium 2 Below
6) Bell’s Two-Hearted Ale
7) Sierra Nevada Pale Ale
8) Boulevard Unfiltered Wheat (takes me back to freshman year Mondays at the Vine)
9) Big Sky Brewing Moose Drool
10) Redhook Mudslinger Nut Brown Ale

*this list is subject to change upon my awakening in the morning or after a few more beers

by A True Americanzi on Jun 18, 2011 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tasty

Leinenkugal’s Sunset Wheat – It is like nectar from the teet.
Hanger 24 Orange Wheat - Southern California micro-brewery that is spreading. It is making its way up the coast. Good stuff.
http://www.hangar24brewery.com/

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by SoCalCoug on Jun 17, 2011 1:35 PM CDT reply actions  

My favorites

Another Washingtonian here, so these might not be easy to find unless you find yourself in the PNW:

1)Diamond Knot IPA (Mukilteo, WA)
2) Diamond Knot Industrial IPA (Mukilteo, WA)
3) Maritime Pacific Jolly Roger (Ballard, WA)
4) Mac n Jacks African Amber (Redmond, WA)
5) Manny’s (Seattle, WA)

by B-Lot tailgater on Jun 17, 2011 1:36 PM CDT reply actions  

I have a fear that this is going to be very biased towards Midwestern breweries.

That’s not necessarily a bad thing, as Bells, Great Lakes, and Founders are three of the most notable craft brews in America, but so many craft beers are only available regionally.

If RCR were hosting this, the responses would heavily favor Abita, Sweetwater, Lazy Magnolia, Diamond Bear, and others. If this were hosted by, say, Testudo Times you’d see Dogfish Head, DC Brau, Flying Dog, and others. If this were hosted by CougCenter, just because I see Jeff right above this comment, there’d be a lot of Oregon and Washington beers represented. And so forth.

I think this is an awesome idea, and you should totally run with it, but keep in mind the distinct regional flare many American breweries possess.

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by The Ghost of Jay Cutler on Jun 17, 2011 1:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Waaaaaaaaayyyyy ahead of you Marge

That’s why we’re posting invites on the west coast and east coast blogs. Certainly there will be a number of distinct beers we won’t be able to get our hands on, but for the most part Chicago (and the midwest in particular) is uniquely situated to receive a lot of these beverages. We’ll try as many as possible and leave it up to the commentariat to help us with the things we can’t find!

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by Maize n Brew Dave on Jun 17, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

In the spirit of southern representation mentioned above....

I’ll put forward the following for consideration:

Shiner Blonde – My favorite beer, hands down. Perfect balance of lightness and flavor.
Shiner Hefeweizen – Great with a wedge of orange.
Abita Amber – I’m not a huge fan of the Abita fruit beers, but I could drink Amber all day.
Leinenkugel Summer Shandy – This is far and away the best beer for a sweltering summer day. I haven’t been able to find it at all this summer, but our distribution is hit and miss in southwest Louisiana.

by RightRev on Jun 17, 2011 2:27 PM CDT reply actions  

I thought Leinenkugel was a northern midwestern beer

Or so Escanaba in da Moonlight led me to believe.

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by bowtierebel on Jun 17, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

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by Bucketochicken on Jun 17, 2011 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

My post was probably a bit unclear...

With “southern representation,” I meant that I was providing a southerner’s input rather than that I was listing some southern brews. I probably could have made that a little more clear. That being said and northern though it is, Leinenkugel really is the perfect beer for a hot and humid day in the south.

by RightRev on Jun 17, 2011 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shiner is a good beer...

I forgot Shiner Frost… I would add that to my list as well!!!

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by JuJuan some Moore? on Jun 18, 2011 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Some Tasty Left Coast Brews Worth Checking Out

Imperial Stout – Mendocino Brewing – Robust malty flavor, creamy
Grizzly Ale – Snowshoe Brewing – Slighlty hoppy and semi-creamy dark ale
Velvet Merlin Oatmeal Stout – Firestone Walker – Creamy choclatey coffee flavor, slightly sweet

Various Varities – Costco Beer (Brewed by Gordon Biersch in the west); it’s cheap and if your not a fan of big brew American Lager, check it out. $17/case (24).

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by Docjay00 on Jun 17, 2011 3:03 PM CDT reply actions  

My top 2

Short list because I don’t like the taste of too much hops and American microbreweries tend to overcompensate for the years of piss-water by putting too much in now. Anyhow, my top 2 from America:

1. New Belgium Fat Tire
2. Shiner Bock (forgive the twist-top)

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by Bruins102NCAA on Jun 17, 2011 4:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Whoa, there, Capt. Generalization!

American West Coast microbreweries tend to overcompensate for the years of piss-water by putting too much in now.

We in the Midwest are lucky enough to have states on either side of Lake Michigan in Wisconsin and Michigan who make some of the finest German-style lagers and stouts/porters anywhere, respectively.

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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 17, 2011 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I like German beer

Paulaner Hef especially. I think I would appreciate those beers you mention. I don’t think we get too many Midwestern micros here on the coast. It’s too bad because I love a good stout or porter (Sam Smith is also good for those but again, from another realm—England). However, we do get the good Mexican beer and tequilas here but that’s another debate.

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by Bruins102NCAA on Jun 17, 2011 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was in Munich earlier this year...

Nothing is better than German beer in a German beer hall!!! Hacker Pschorr, DELICIOUS! But they are CRAZY for sticking to the purity laws… that is why I love me some micros!

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by JuJuan some Moore? on Jun 18, 2011 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

my 7

1 Shiner Hefeweizen – Much love for the Bock, but I’d give this a higher ‘drinkability’
2 Shiner Smokehouse (Specialty, Mesquite flavor)- My wife put it best, “It tastes like Texas”
3 Upland Wheat Ale – good enough to make me overlook the word “Bloomington” on the label
4 New Belgium Fat Tire (Amber Ale) – A nice beer to pair with a good meal
5 Bell’s Oberon Ale – It’s not summer in Michigan without Oberon. Always worth the wait.
6 Blue Moon Belgian White Ale – Always a good stand-by, always with a slice of orange
7 Lafayette Brewing Company Star City Lager – Boiler UP!

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by sea.of.white on Jun 17, 2011 4:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Gotta stay local

Diamond Bear (Little Rock, AR) IPA, Pale Ale, and Southern Blonde are outstanding.

New Belgium and Boulevard will get my vote every time also.

by AR Rebel on Jun 17, 2011 4:48 PM CDT reply actions  

Does Keystone count?

I’m kidding guys, take it easy.

I’m not as learned in the ways of the brew as many of you, but my leaders are – not necessarily in order:

1) Yuengling Traditional Lager - Maybe the best all around beer I’ve had
2) Lazy Magnolia Southern Pecan - As described by Ghost above, you don’t want to get drunk off of it due to the sweetness, but damn is it good.
3) Sam Adams Winter Lager - Nice and rich, and winter is my favorite season
4) Budweiser – Shut up. I like it.
5) Blue Moon Summer Honey Wheat - Great stuff
6) Abita Amber - Delicious
7) Lazy Magnolia Reb Ale - Another beer by the Lazy Magnolia brewery down in Mississippi. It’s really rich and full of flavor.

That’s all I got. Great topic. Now I’m thirsty.

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by bowtierebel on Jun 17, 2011 4:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Hmmm...I'm not much of a beer drinker

That being said, I really have enjoyed Goose Island’s Matilda. I’m not proud of this, but MGD 64 if I just want something light to toss back.
That being said, I was in Milwaukee and just picked up some Dale’s Pale Ale from Oskar blues which might be my new favorite. Distribution is obviously the problem there. And speaking of distribution, I also really enjoyed Matacabras from Dave’s Brew Farm.
DAMN YOU excellent microbrews who don’t have distribution yet!

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by chitownhawkeye on Jun 17, 2011 4:59 PM CDT reply actions  

I can't put them in any order. I had a difficult time listing 10.

Rogue – Double Dead Guy
Rogue – John John
Rogue – Morimoto Imperial Pilsner
Ninkiasi – Tricerahops Double IPA
Alameda – Black Bear XX Stout
Deschutes – Black Butte Porter
Pelican – India Pelican Ale
Full Sail – Black Gold Imperial Stout
Hopworks Urban – Ace Of Spades
Mac and Jacks – African Amber
Chimay – Première (Red)

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by JShufelt on Jun 17, 2011 5:42 PM CDT reply actions  

We annexed Belgium?

Woohoo! Pass the waffles!

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by leeharvey418 on Jun 17, 2011 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh crap!

I missed that note. Umm… I suppose replace that with… Alaskan Amber.

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by JShufelt on Jun 17, 2011 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Top 10.

1. shorts (bellaire). the bellaire brown, nicey spicey, or pandimonium pale ale are good starters
2. right brain brewery (traverse city). literally anything here. menu changes.
3. great lake brewing company (ohio) i love their commodore perry.
4. goose island (illinois) green line ale
5. Half acre (illinois) pretty much everything from them is good. daisy cutter is a good start.
6. Three Floyds (indiana) alpha king
7. Bells (kalamazoo) best brown or oarsman ale
8. Dark Horse Brewery (Marshall) the crooked tree or amber ale
9. Founders Brewery (grand rapids) Dirty Bastard scotch ale
10. MIchigan Brewing Company (webberville) The nutbrown and mackinaw pale ale are both good.

by tbone521 on Jun 17, 2011 7:08 PM CDT reply actions  

Doing my best to follow the regs...

The availability criteria is going to be thrown to the wind, at least, for a couple of these:

Bear Republic — Hop Rod Rye
Deschutes — Black Butte Porter
Dogfish Head — Punkin’ Ale
Lagunitas — IPA
Lost Abbey — Judgment Day
Russian River — Pliny the Elder
Stone — Imperial Russian Stout
Stone — Oaked Arrogant Bastard

And to finish off with the selections without any regard to availability:
Russian River — Deification
Moonlight Brewing — Death and Taxes (black lager that is keg-only, and sadly impossible to find outside of Nor Cal). For whoever was asking up thread, their Reality Czech is great, but even harder to find than D&T.

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by Patroclus on Jun 17, 2011 7:42 PM CDT reply actions  

My limited experience

Tuba Charlie’s Allegro Abbey Ale- This may not fare well in a draft since I don’t think it’s available outside of the “Traveler’s Club International Restaurant and Tuba Museum” in Okemos so few have probably had it, but I found it outstanding. Next time you’re in East Lansing, head down the road and check out this bizarre place for good food and several crafts on tap (and hundreds of other beers in bottle).

Leinenkugel Sunset Wheat- I recently got the summer sampler pack, and by far this beer was my favorite.

Bell’s Oberon Ale- The ubiquitous beer of Michigan summers. Tasty and refreshing.

Shiner Bock- Had my first a few weeks ago and I’d have to say I’d definitely drink it again.

Blue Moon- A Belgian style wtibier, it is definitely a favorite, though it does take second place in the summer because of Oberon

New Holland Dragon’s Milk: One of my favorite beers, though it’s been a while since I’ve had one and admittedly I was new to beer when I first tried it

I have to admit, there’s a lot of foreign brews I’d like to put on here. One that I found interesting was Well’s Banana Bread Beer.

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by Seer on Jun 17, 2011 10:18 PM CDT reply actions  

There's only ONE correct response

Pabst Blue Ribbon – served in 8 oz schooners – served so cold that it burns going down !

craft = crap, got that ? !

by steptoe_fan on Jun 17, 2011 10:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Red Neck, White Socks & Blue Ribbon Beer

USA! USA! USA! Foxworthy would be so proud.
Dad used to drink PBR. I did too, until I found out there are beers out there where you don’t have to gag on the first couple swallows to get used to it.

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by PreachinTotheChoir on Jun 20, 2011 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kyle

I forgot to mention this to you earlier, but a buddy of mine runs a craft beer review website, the greatest beer of all time. Knowing your love and knowledge of beer, I thought you might find some useful information.

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by chitownhawkeye on Jun 18, 2011 12:29 AM CDT reply actions  

Because I love beer and was begged..... oops, this isn't the place I get banned for the subject line is it?

In absolutely no particular order
Troegs Hop Back recently was able to sample from a very fresh dry hopped firkin maybe the best tasting draught I have ever had. Have a Troegs Pale Ale firkin coming up next week. I like most of Troegs offerings
Bell’s Two hearted ale mmmmm great draught beer
Founder’s centennial IPA
Lancaster Rumspringa
Stoudt’s Red’s Rye and many more of Stoudt’s beers
Dogfish Head 90 min IPA, if I could afford it more often it would always be at the house. I buy growlers of it at my local tap room to soothe the craving
Stone IPA and Arrogant Bastard
Atwater’s Vanilla Java Porter best coffee beer I have ever had
My cheap stand by beer always at the house Wolter’s Pilsner, Munich brewed pilsner under $21 a case
Favorite Belgian is Duvel, could drink this all the time but again, cost is a drawback.
Best Can Beer, Sly Fox 119 IPA

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by BMAN13 on Jun 18, 2011 8:50 AM CDT reply actions  

So Cal Favs

My list includes beers that are somewhat accessible but still very craft beer. Tried to be a little original here by not stating the obvious choices (e.g. Stone Ruination). Any good beer store in Southern California will carry bombers of the following:

1. Alpine Duet IPA
2. Ballast Point Sculpin IPA
3. Alpine Nelson IPA
4. Port Brewing Mongo IPA
5. Kern River Just Outstanding IPA
6. The Bruery Hummulus IPL
7. Bootlegger’s Rustic Rye IPA
8. Hangar 24 Columbus IPA
9. Firestone Double Jack DIPA
10. Stone Sublimely Self Righteous Black IPA

As you can see, very IPA heavy. That is what is best in CA. I opted to stick to Southern California as Nor Cal is well represented above with the likes of Russian River, Lagunitas and Bear Republic.

by misfit15 on Jun 18, 2011 10:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Only ten? That's too hard in Oregon.

Anywho…

Deschutes Black Butte Porter
Deschutes Mirror Pond Pale Ale
Full Sail Session Lager
Pelican Kiwanda Cream Ale
Rogue Shakespeare Stout
Rogue Dead Guy Ale
Ninkasi Total Domination IPA
Double Mountain Vaporizer
Hair of the Dog Fred
Hair of the Dog Doggie Claws

THAT'S RIGHT, Kenny Wheaton you did. You cut back into GREATNESS.

by HoodRiverDuck on Jun 18, 2011 2:37 PM CDT reply actions  

I'll give it a shot

1. Leinenkugel’s Sunset Wheat…the rest is just window dressing
2. Leinenkugel Honey Weiss
3. Schlafley Pale Ale
4. Shock Top by AB
5. Blue Moon
6. Fat Tire
7. Schlafley Hefeweizen
8. Sam Adams Boston Lager
9. Sam Adams Winter Lager
10. Leinenkugels Summer Shandy

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by Ted Glover on Jun 18, 2011 3:26 PM CDT reply actions  

to each his own i guess...

but I tried Leinenkugel’s Summer Shandy this past weekend and thought it was the grossest beer I’ve had in a long time.

by hocke26 on Jun 20, 2011 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

For me...

It has to be a hot summer day… it is very refreshing drink, but it is more like lemonade than beer… definitely an acquired taste.

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by JuJuan some Moore? on Jun 20, 2011 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

I just couldn’t handle the overwhelming lemonade flavor. Went into it expecting something more like Sam Summer or Blue Moon Summer Wheat. But that’s what makes this topic such a great one, there’s so much variety, and so much room for personal preference…

by hocke26 on Jun 21, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the invite Maize n Brew Dave

Since some of my CA brethren have been giving some great CA brews, I’ll throw in one I haven’t seen yet. After transplanting myself from California to the awesome mugginess of northern VA, I had to get used to new regional beers….and having to buy hard liquor at different stores than beer. That said, I have become a huge fan of the Starr Hill’s Northern Lights IPA out of Charlottesville, VA. Their “Lucy” a spiced golden ale is pretty nice as well.

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by VABruin on Jun 18, 2011 11:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Glad you guys could join us

The west coast, (Washington, Oregon, California) is one of the most progressive brewing areas in the world. The number of great brewers and creative breweries out there is staggering. Can’t talk beer with you guys.

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by Maize n Brew Dave on Jun 19, 2011 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually

I’ve been hearing A LOT about “Lucy” recently. going to have to pick me up some of that.

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by Maize n Brew Dave on Jun 19, 2011 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Starr Hill brews some good stuff

We had a couple of Bar Reviews at the original Starr Hill when I was at UVa, before they set up their production brewery outside of town.

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by Patroclus on Jun 20, 2011 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

This still going?

I’ll give it a whirl. My top 10 go-to beers (that are from the US, AFAIK widely available, and not too expensive):

New Belgium 1554
Big Sky Moose Drool
Bell’s Oberon Ale
Sierra Nevada Pale Ale
Sam Adams Boston Lager
Shiner Bock
Pete’s Wicked Ale
Goose Island Honker’s Ale
Sam Adams Oktoberfest
Rogue Dead Guy Ale

Brunettes not fighter jets

by rockyh on Jun 19, 2011 3:01 PM CDT reply actions  

Pabst Blue Ribbon

It has a fucking Blue Ribbon on it.
Any of these other beers win a Blue Ribbon?
Check-and-Mate.

Hawks for the win and falafels for the vagina

by DoYouLoveHawksorHate'Merica? on Jun 19, 2011 10:43 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

See above reference to PBR

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by PreachinTotheChoir on Jun 20, 2011 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wrigley Field prominently features PBR

Wrigley field = a dump (thanks for saying what we’ve all been thinking, Peter Gammons).

Therefore, PBR = a dummy beer.

PS, Wrigley hot dogs suck, too

by MSUDersh on Jun 20, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

  • I meant a DUMPY beer

by MSUDersh on Jun 20, 2011 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not anymore...

They switched to Vienna beef dogs this season. Much better than in the past.

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by Maize n Brew Dave on Jun 20, 2011 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm a lifelong Cubs fan living in Chicago

and freely admit that Wrigley has the worst concessions of any professional sports team in America. The urinal cakes might be the best thing at the stadium (just kidding, they don’t even have urinals, just giant troughs that serve as a police line-up for wangs).

Less memorable than Sam Okey's Hawkeye career.

by Kyle McCann't on Jun 20, 2011 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, no, no, no, no

You were at the Northwestern game. Wrigley is bad, but I waited 15 minutes to be told that the hot pretzels in the display not only weren’t hot, but were in fact, not even done.

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by chitownhawkeye on Jun 21, 2011 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

As an exile from CA to CO, I can offer some local suggestions

Besides below average to frankly bad football (yes, I realize the hypocrisy coming from a U.C.L.A. guy…), the state of Colorado also offers some incredible craft beer.

90 Shilling – Odell Brewing Co
5 Barrell – Odell Brewing Co
Hazed ’n Infused – Boulder Beer Co
Avalanche Ale – Breckenridge Brewery
Sunshine Wheat – New Belgium Brewing

and my other favorites…

Alaskan Amber Ale
Alaskan Smoked Porter
Sierra Nevada Pale Ale
Sam Adams Oktoberfest
Sam Adams Noble Pils
  
I saw the debate above whether Sam qualifies as a craft. Since my kegerator is currently armed with the Boston Lager, I will stick with my loyalties.

And as an aside, if anyone ever makes it out to Denver for the Great American Beer Fest (4 amazing individual words, yet proof that the whole is indeed greater than the sum of the parts) look me up.

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by gbruin on Jun 19, 2011 11:01 PM CDT reply actions  

In no particular order

Coors In case a banquet breaks out, this is what you need.

Sam Adams Octoberfest I hate their commercials so much, but they have good stuff.

Sam Adams Summer Ale Love the wheat stuff.

Michelob Amber Bock I have found memories of downing pitchers of this stuff from college. Pretty good for the price.

Pyramid Hefeweizen Wheat makes good beer.

Capital Brewery Munich Dark It looks like it might be called Capital Dark now though. It’s been a while, but you have to respect the Rheinheitsgebot.

Sierra Nevada Bigfoot Barleywine Gotta have one super-strong one on here.

Turoni’s Thunderbolt Red Ale Availability is limited to three restaurants, but I love some Altbier.

Lafayette Brewing Company Black Angus Oatmeal Stout

Lafayette Brewing Company Marley’s Very Special Old Porter Aged in bourbon barrels. Pretty smooth for a fairly high alcohol content. Fails the availability test, but it’s too good not to have on my list.

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by babaoreally on Jun 20, 2011 1:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Secret confession - I kind of love Coors banquet beer.

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by Run Up The Score on Jun 20, 2011 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Really... that's interesting. You know what makes me cry?

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by leeharvey418 on Jun 20, 2011 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't so much love it...

As I loved that a 24oz can of the banquet sold for $1.29 when I lived in Virginia. A student on a budget has to make due with what he can.

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by Patroclus on Jun 20, 2011 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was at a bar and asked what kind of beer they had. The waitress said, “What don’t we have?” or “Too many too list” or something similar.

I said, “How about Coors, then?”

“No, we don’t have that.”

For some reason I thought that was hilarious.

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by babaoreally on Jun 21, 2011 2:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

SoCal Beers from Bruin Country

In no particular order:
Bruery Tradewinds Tripel
Strand 24th Street Pale
Brouwerij West 9 Tripel
Stone Imperial Stout

Breweries:
Hangar 24
Green Flash Brewing
Stone Brewing
Firestone Walker Brewing
Port Brewing / Lost Abbey
Ballast Point Brewing
Alesmith Brewing
The Bruery

And as an inside joke to anyone living in the LA area; If you haven’t tried the Red Fire Hydrant Ale at Father’s Office, you’re just not living life.

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by MexiBruin on Jun 20, 2011 3:01 AM CDT reply actions  

Father's Office!

I spent a few evenings or more there back in the day. What a great place!

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by gbruin on Jun 20, 2011 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, okay.

I tend to be on the malty and/or fruity (hey-yo!) side of things, so no IPA’s on this list:

Breckenridge Vanilla Porter. So good, if you’re into vanilla. I tried to make something similar, with some Jack Daniel’s added to the fermenter. Wasn’t too shabby.

Blue Point Toasted Lager. Has become one of my favorites, even though there’s very little distinctive about it. Just a really smooth, flavorful beer’s beer.

Victory Whirlwind Wit. I’m a wheat beer guy for sure, and this is probably the best I’ve had of that style. Like drinking a cloud. Their Yakima Glory and Summer Love (which is as hoppy as I’ll get) are also fantastic.

Sly Fox Incubus tripel. Only comes in 750ml bottles, and one of those enough to do just about any job. They also make a quadrupel, Ichor, which is just a slight notch below for me.

He’Brew Rejewvinator. Billed as a half doppelbock, half dubbel. On tap at a local bar, and delicious.

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by Run Up The Score on Jun 20, 2011 8:51 AM CDT reply actions  

so, looks like a giant B1G beer trade

as Penn Staters drive west for games, they should bring various six packs, bottles and kegs from breweries like Sly Fox; conversely, Cornhuskers are going to have to bring stuff to the east.

Meet ya at the tailgate!

by WarBuck46410 on Jun 20, 2011 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hard to do this well on my wife's ipad

But here is a favorite Wisky beer of mine, Spotted Cow by new Glarus Brewing Co. http://www.newglarusbrewing.com/beers.cfm?BeerID=7

Sadly, it turns out my #1 all time favorite, the Aventinus Wheat DoppleBock, is a German brew by Schneider Weisse, http://www.schneider-weisse.de/index.php?lang=en&tpl=brauerei.spezialitaeten.aven&sid=72721360335821855260336054054727

Discovered it originally at the Red Coat on WW in Royal Oak

by MSUDersh on Jun 20, 2011 11:31 AM CDT reply actions  

big fan of the Spotted Cow

Sadly, all the troubles with the beer/liquor distribution laws in Illinois (and chicago in particular) have forced New Glarus out of Illinois. They just don’t want to have to deal with the headache. I can’t say I blame them, the laws here are just awful if you’re a smaller brewery.

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by Maize n Brew Dave on Jun 20, 2011 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

I just picked up a 6 pack of Spotted Cow

I haven’t tried it yet, but based on what everyone is saying, I need to get some in the fridge

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by chitownhawkeye on Jun 20, 2011 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not true, Dave.

Bells left because of BS, not New Glarus; they left because Chicago was eating up so much of their supply that they couldn’t get product to people in Wisconsin. Dan Carey made the decision to supply the locals first and foremost, and for that I salute him. However, I’m sure Illinois’ fucked up laws didn’t slow his decision any.

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by Kyle McCann't on Jun 20, 2011 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Goose Island Nightstalker for those who like Imperial Stouts

Maybe someone listed it above, but if you like Imperial Stouts and ever find a bottle of Nightstalker, for sure try it. A really really good stout; almost none of that “rubber tire” aftertaste.

by WarBuck46410 on Jun 20, 2011 1:11 PM CDT reply actions  

A quick top five off the top of my head...(in no particular order)

Paulaner Oktoberfest Marzen
Weihenstephaner Weiss Beer
Avery 16th Anniversary Saison
Bells Oberon
O’Dell’s 5 Barrel Pale Ale

Beer – bringing Spartans and Wolverines together since 1837

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by Spartan D on Jun 20, 2011 2:50 PM CDT reply actions  

pretty sure those first two aren't American...

I KNOW Paulaner is from Munich, and I got sloppy drunk in their beer hall when I visited a friend a couple months back… (p.s. German beer RULES! My favorite is Hacker Pschorr)

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by JuJuan some Moore? on Jun 20, 2011 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

In No Particular Order...

Old Rasputin Imperial Stout
Bell’s Oberon
Flying Dog Snake Dog IPA
Sam Adams Summer Ale
Landshark Lager
Long Trail Double Bag
Magic Hat Vinyl
Yuengling Lager
Left Hand Milk Stout
River Horse Hop Hazard

by hocke26 on Jun 20, 2011 3:30 PM CDT reply actions  

Really can't be beat

1. St. Arnold’s Fancy lawnmower/ Weedwacker
2. Abita harvest Lager
3.LONESTAR
4. Boulevard Unfiltered Wheat
5. Real Ale Rio Blanco
6. Deschutes Twilight
7. Breckenridge Hefe Proper
8. Southern Star Blonde Bombshell
9. Left Hand Milk Stout
10. Shiner Dortmunder

by TIGRPRIDE on Jun 20, 2011 8:22 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't always smoke herb, and when I don't, I prefer...

Three Floyd’s: Alpha King
Ska: Modus Hoperandi
Surly: Furious
New Belgium: Trippel
Stone: Arrogant Bastard
Sierra Nevada: Celebration Ale
Bell’s: Two Hearted Ale
Lagunitas: IPA
Dogfish Head: 90 Minute Imperial IPA
Founder’s: Porter

Give me hops, or give me death… or a really good stout or porter would work too.

Templeton Rye'd the Lightning.

by Smokin Herb Grigsby on Jun 21, 2011 1:39 AM CDT reply actions  

In case anyone finds themseles in the Quad-Cities area . . .

(i.e. the biggest place no one has ever heard of, along the buccolic banks of the Mississippi River between Iowa and Illinois) I have a few local brewery recommendations:

Bent River Brewing in Moline (one of the five Quad-Cities, no, that’s not a typo) probably has the best overall quality. It also has, IMO, the best single beer in the area, which is called Uncommon Stout. They also make a decent pale ale and an interesting jalapeno-infused beer. Unfortunately, Bent River only seres on premise or in growlers.

The new kid on the block, on the other hand, has a full canning operation. It is called Great River Brewing and they make a few good beers, although they can be somewhat hit or miss. One solid contributor is their Roller Dam Red (cleverly named after the red rollers on Lock and Dam 14 which is right outside the front windows of the brewery). Stay away from their Jefe Mexican Lager though.

An oldie but goody is Blue Cat Brew Pub. They make an outstanding porter, but it is seasonal. Their best “everyday on tap” beer is probably the Big Bad Dog Old English Ale. Like Bent River, Blue Cat also only serves on premise or in growlers.

Last, and somewhat least is Front Street Brewery. They have the best food out of all the brew pubs, and a great atmosphere, but their beers tend to be pretty pedestrian and conservative for my tastes. They do make a pretty tasty cherry ale that is a nice summer beer. They are in the process of also starting a canning or bottling operation at the new Quad-Cities Food Hub. Should be interesting.

Not many people know it, but Davenport (the largest of the Quads) was once a big regional brewing center, due to its very large German population. It’s nice to see some of that old tradtion coming back.

by Torbee on Jun 21, 2011 2:55 PM CDT reply actions  

In response to your thread on Burnt Orange Nation:

In no particular order:

Live Oak Hefeweizen
Duvel
Unibroue Trois Pistoles
Unibroue La Fin du Monde
Ommegang Three Philosophers
Westvleteren 12
DFH 120-Minute IPA
Real Ale Devil’s Backbone

I wish I could play little league now... I'd kick some fuckin' ass.

by drbadass on Jun 21, 2011 10:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Must have deleted the last 2--

Delirium Tremens
St Bernardus Abt 12

I wish I could play little league now... I'd kick some fuckin' ass.

by drbadass on Jun 21, 2011 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

It may be too easy

but that’s a great screen name.

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by gbruin on Jun 25, 2011 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

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