What You See, Statistics, and the Middle Ground Somewhere In Between
Statistics are tricky. I remember sitting in a Michigan computer lab many years ago attempting to learn statistics from a graduate student whose grasp of English was, at best, limited. It wasn't an easy proposition. Statistics are, at their heart, the study of trying to discern how and why certain sets of numbers provide you with a reasonable answer to a question you haven't asked. At least that's what I told myself when I withdrew from the class. In hindsight, the fault for my lack of understanding may equally have been my own. College being what it is.
However, as I've gotten older I've found statistics to be a useful tool when trying to uncover meaning in sea of random numbers. Whether it's my spending habits, understanding economic theory, or summarizing a complex concept, statistics are a useful tool. And, I've found, they're the most useful when I'm using them for illustrative purposes.
For instance, if I wanted to make the assertion that offensive efficiency is not demonstrated by the total yards an offense racks up, but rather is demonstrated by the number of points per yard a team scores I can easily find numbers to support that. As a matter of fact, I can find "concrete" numbers to support this contention. It's a simple set of numbers and a simple formula. The concrete numbers are readily available, Total Yards and Total Points. Those are pretty concrete, right? So what's next? You take total points and divide them by total yards to derive your points per yard offensive efficiency statistic. Let's take a look at the Big Ten for the 2010 season.
| Rank | School | Pts/Yard | Yards | Points |
| 1 | Wisc | .0931397 | 5787 | 539 |
| 2 | OSU | .0864197 | 5832 | 504 |
| 3 | Ill | .0819449 | 5162 | 423 |
| 4 | MSU | .0758265 | 5051 | 383 |
| 5 | Iowa | .0755323 | 4978 | 376 |
| 6 | Ind | .0701075 | 4650 | 326 |
| 7 | NU | .0674665 | 5084 | 343 |
| 8 | Mich | .0670549 | 6353 | 426 |
| 9 | PSU | .0657160 | 4839 | 319 |
| 10 | Minn | .0641143 | 4336 | 278 |
| 11 | Pur | .0631184 | 3739 | 236 |
Wow. 6353 yards on the season, and Michigan ranked eighth in our new make believe statistic for offensive efficiency. As a matter of fact, they ranked behind Northwestern and Indiana. But, this isn't a real statistic. They're just arbitrary numbers mashed together. But for giggles, lets see what happened during the 2010 conference season.
| Rank | School | Pts/Yard | Yards | Points |
| 1 | Wisc | .1044431 | 3466 | 362 |
| 2 | Ill | .0907072 | 3153 | 286 |
| 3 | OSU | .0821673 | 3359 | 276 |
| 4 | MSU | .0758027 | 3021 | 229 |
| 5 | Iowa | .0740072 | 2770 | 205 |
| 6 | PSU | .0670205 | 3014 | 202 |
| 7 | Pur | .0664585 | 2242 | 149 |
| 8 | Mich | .0656914 | 3760 | 247 |
| 9 | Minn | .0645161 | 2666 | 172 |
| 10 | NU | .0610561 | 2030 | 185 |
| 11 | Ind | .0571822 | 2903 | 166 |
Holy crap! Are you serious!!?? Michigan's in conference offensive efficiency was worse than Purdue's! The funny thing is, if you look at the rankings, well... with the notable exception of Illinois, they make sense. Wisconsin, OSU and MSU were all at the top of the conference. Iowa, Penn State and Illinois were all bowl teams. And if you watched these team play for any extended period of time, the numbers makes sense.
Here's the rub. These numbers aren't "concrete" at all. They're a select set of figures derived from a complicated game that tell a limited story. Frankly, they're cherry picked numbers that support a contention. You look at the numbers and they obviously include overtime points, defensive scores, short fields, field goals, two point conversions, etc. There are too many variables to count, but if I want to stick by these numbers, I can. I can dismiss whatever I want as chance or irrelevant, because the numbers are the numbers. These numbers are right there in front of you to see, and they are irrefutable. You know. Because they're numbers.
Fortunately, I'm not going to make that argument. You can take the above percentages for what they're worth: flawed, cherry-picked numbers. The only thing you can really derive from these numbers is that Michigan had to gain more yards to score a point than seven other teams in the conference. As a reference measure for offensive efficiency, it's not good.
It doesn't tell the whole story. No statistic ever tells the whole story. It's just a fact. Some are just better at explaining a part of the story than others. We just have to be careful not to substitute the part for the whole.
FEI is often trumpeted as one of the best statistical tools for determining offensive efficiency. Yet, Michigan ranked second in FEI in 2010. Ahead of Oregon, Stanford, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Alabama, Oklahoma State, et al. That ranking is strange because Michigan turned the ball over 29 times and ranked 106 in turnovers nationally. Michigan also trailed the aforementioned schools in actual scoring. Can there be a legitimate argument that Michigan's offense was actually better than Oregon's, Stanford's, Ohio State's, Wisconsin's, etc.? Not if you saw the teams play.
And that is what this comes down to. Common sense. Your eyes. If your eyes are telling you that you're watching a turd of a football game, well... you are. If your reaction to the Wisconsin Michigan game was that Michigan just got completely curb stomped by Wisconsin in the first half, mounted a minor comeback when Wisconsin took a third quarter nap, and then still got blown out by 20 points at home, well... that's what you saw. Perhaps the stats tell a different story. Maybe. But while the stats say that Michigan ran up an astounding 442 yards against Wisconsin they don't relate what actually happened at the game.
Just to summarize Michigan's first half against Wisconsin, Michigan's first half drives against Wisconsin were as follows (plays/yards): 7/34 (punt); 11/59 (missed FG); 3/4 (punt); 3/3 (punt); and 2/24 (end of half [:30 sec]). That is an astounding 124 yards of offense and three punts. And Michigan was down 24 points at the half. The final score was 48-28.
Statistics at the end of the season and the end of a game can be just as misleading as they are informative. Where someone might see a close game based on statistics after the fact, anyone actually at the game saw a butt whupping that they haven't forgotten. I've made this case before, Michigan wasn't as good offensively as the end of the year totals, or end of game totals, seem to indicate. However, this is not to say the offense was awful. It was fun to watch and it provided a lot of nice memories and highlights. It put up some mind-bending numbers that rightfully deserve praise.
This brings me to my main point. The answer to the disparity between the numbers and your eye sight lies somewhere in between the two. But no one seems to be looking there. If you read the recent piece on the spread offense at MGoBlog, you probably understand why I'm writing this. There seems to be a battle raging in a segment of the Michigan fanbase between the reality of what has happened in the changeover and where that segment thought Michigan would be headed. Nothing that has been written over the summer of discontent sums that up better than this two sentence paragraph.
Michigan's turnover issues aren't fate, should improve naturally, and are not related to the spread. Most of Michigan's other issues at turning yards into points are not really the offense's.
Both of these statements are supported in MGo's post with numbers and statistics. They seem to be the dividing line between spread supporters and people who are all too happy to leave the spread offense behind. If you've watched football, and watched this team, these two statements seem to fly in the face of reality. Turnovers were a constant problem and appear directly related to the coaching staff because they never improved. And the second portion seems to be written in crayon. Of course the offense is responsible for scoring points.
But that's not the whole story, and it's not that easy to dismiss the above statements. In particular, the turnover statement is true as a general rule of football. The type of offense you run doesn't have a discernible impact on your turnovers. There are numbers to back this up if you study the averages of turnovers year to year of all the teams in D1.
On the subject of turnovers and the statistics that support them, the premise that they are "random" is a major pillar of the thesis that I, and a lot of reasonable people, do not share. Turnovers, in my view, are the by product of poor ball protection, poor scheming, poor decision making, and/or poor coaching. Maybe a batted ball or a helmet on the ball are an occassional random event, but sustained high turnover numbers are not random. Whether or not the high turnovers Michigan incurred in the spread were the result of the spread is up to the individual observer. I contend that the offense and the turnovers aren't related. I do contend, however, that turnovers are not a random event that can be simply brushed aside for purposes of arguing that the spread would've worked except for all the turnovers.
However, the contention that turning yards into points not being a responsibility of the offense is something I can not find support for. But I think this is something that is best explored in a minute.
The real issue at bay before you can assess the merits of the MGopost is whether the post is just a long apology for Rich Rodriguez, or whether it is a discussion of the merits of the spread offense in general. Given the tenor of the article it is easy to come to the conclusion that it is the former rather than the latter, and many people have suggested so in the comments. I'm not sure that's the intention.
The concern here is that Michigan is moving away from what should be an efficient, deadly offense in 2011. MGo is not making a direct argument that Rodriguez should've been retained, it is instead making an argument that his offense should've been retained because the statistics support it. To an extent, there is some support for this contention. You need not look further than the spread offense of Oregon or the spread and smoosh offense of Auburn and Tebow's Florida to see it's benefits. And, according to FEI, Michigan was better than Oregon offensively! Just so we're clear, numbers or not, my eyes won't letme believe that's true. But there are statistics to support that contention.
This brings us back to the offense's lack of fault for not scoring points. There are aspects of scoring points outside the 3-down offense's control. Field goal kicking is not a function of the spread offense, and if Michigan had a field goal kicker it's likely the season's offensive numbers would have been substantially better. However, the scoring issue here is not the spread offense. The issue that limited Michigan's scoring in 2010 was coaching.
It's easy to point to spread offenses like Oregon and Aurburn and say "we should be just like them." But that's not the case. Not all spread offenses are created equal. Not all personnel are the same. There is a high degree of variance between the individual coaching staffs and their play calling within their different spread systems. I think it's over-simplification to point toward two successful spread offenses and suggest that we'll be just like them if we stay in the spread. Football just doesn't work that way, there are just too many variables.
This doesn't take away from the main point that, perhaps, it is a bad idea to abandon the spread in 2011. The answers is a little yes, and a little no. The majority of the Michigan fans' disgust with the spread is how it was implemented at Michigan. In conference, it was a disaster. Second half comebacks and big second half numbers be damned, Michigan's spread was not competitive against any defense with a pulse.
I think there is something to be said for the proposition that these failures were not a systemic problem, but a coaching problem. The spread did not make the offense more predictable or less efficient at scoring points. The coaching staff did with their limited play book, inability to implement a legitimate zone read, inability to take advantage of byes or additional preparation time, inability to find a legitimate running back, and insistence on using Denard Robinson until he was hauled off the field in obvious pain. This simply wasn't true at Michigan:
Rich Rodriguez kept ahead of the curve by constantly adding new wrinkles to the ground game. He was able to do this because of his vast experience with the spread 'n' shred.
So, this brings us to the middle ground I spoke of earlier.
It is impossible to deny the benefits and explosiveness of the spread offense. It works. It's documented-national-championship fact that it works. On the other hand it was only marginally successful at Michigan. This is not because the spread itself "won't work in the Big Ten." That type of argument is nonsense. No, it didn't work at Michigan because, frankly, the coaching staff screwed the pooch in implementing it. But now there is a new coaching staff that wants to run a more traditional offense and foresake the spread and all it's potential glory. So what happens next?
The answer is in the middle. If you watched the Spring Game, you probably noticeda number of Denard designed runs and even a little zone read. If you watched any of San Diego State's rout of Navy, you noticed a very diverse playbook with plenty of spread aspects. You've probably also noticed that Borges offense actually uses zone concepts in its blocking schemes, just not exclusively.
So we're somewhere in between jettisoning the spread into space and reverting to Mike DeBord's boring fullback-waggle offense. And that's not a bad thing. In fact, it's actually fairly progressive. Call it a Pro-Spread if you like. It's not going to be a full pro-offense, and it won't be a spread offense. It'll be somewhere in between.
There are not statistics to back this up. There are no numbers. I can't tell you that the bad things that happened last year will "regress to the mean" because some random study of a bunch of teams who all run different variants of a certain system indicates it will. Statistics do not, and can not tell us the full story. When we rely on them exclusively to make our point, we lose the credibility we believe we are building with them.
Football isn't a statistics game. While I admire people's attempts to quantify it, I have yet to find their efforts helpful or determinative of anyone's particular season. That's why we also have to use our senses when evaluating a football team. We can't just look at numbers on the field, we have to look at how they're playing, what they're doing right or wrong, their opposition down in down out, and observe what actually happens. Someone can break off a 40 yard run on a top ten defense, but a stat sheet won't tell you that the reason for the run was that the weakside linebacker tripped over his own two feet, thus leaving the gap open. Stats don't tell you if All-American player X was lallygagging for a quarter because he thought the game was over.
Stats help us to see things we miss, but they do not create an alternate reality. What our eyes see and what the stats tell us should not be that different. The reality is somewhere in between.
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Interesting
Good article Dave. I think the next logical progression would be to next compare league standings to defensive yards given up per point.
What do you think?
What would Yzerman do?
There are a number of issues, but there are adjustments.
Particularly in regards to the defenses teams faced. I would check out Football Outsider’s SB Nation resource Football Study Hall for some of those interesting higher end stats, with an attempt to normalize some of the outliers in a game where 120 teams play only 10-13 opponents.
Your stat doesn’t include average starting field position either. A team with dynamic returners would generally average less yards because they have a shorter field to contend with. Since this isn’t a vacuum, the opportunity to score more points is higher the closer you start to the opposing endzone, further increasing their points/yard ratio.
Wisconsin’s <10 yards per point in the 2010 conference season is amazing.
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Statistics & reality
Statistics are not related to success. Imagine that a team runs the ball on every play. each series gains 1 yard in three plunges and punts. Each time the other team scores. the sixth time they have the ball the back breaks out for an 80 yard run.
Statistically the offence has a great running game because they went 95 yards in 16 running plays, a 5.93 yard average per play.
you nailed my point
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by Maize n Brew Dave on Jul 5, 2011 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, yes
If over an entire season a team got results exactly like that, you would have a great running game, albeit a rotten defense. A team which scores a TD per four possessions is actually a pretty good one, but not the juggernaut that gains exactly 5.93 yards each play.
Bill Parcells insisted on running what may have looked like futile plays because “what doesn’t work in the 1st quarter will work in the 4th quarter.” That is, the early “futile” plays had a purpose: wearing down the defenders. Anyone who actually watched 1976 M-OSU would see that the 1st half, which ended 0-0, was a resounding win for Michigan, which had spent that first half beating the snot out of the OSU front 7 and whose defense was itself still pretty fresh. It led to a 22-0 win which wasn’t as close as the score.
I may be math challnged, but it appears to me that for statistics to be an accurate predictor they have to be measuring many similar events. The larger the population of events and the less they vary from the mean (like insurance stats) the more useful they are. They are also more accurate predictors of the bottom line of the insurance company which takes on the risk of millions of events than to the win-loss record of a single football team which plays a dozen games of sixty minutes each.
Seriously?
The “Most of Michigan’s other issues at turning yards into points are not really the offense’s.” quote was obviously referring to the tragedy that was the kicking game. It’s hard to believe you didn’t understand this point, so I think you’re just trying to argue with Brian.
The broader point about statistics shows that you really didn’t understand your course on statistics. It’s about sample size. FEI is probabilistic. If an offense is consistently on the negative side of the distribution that doesn’t mean FEI is bad, it just means that a low probability event like lots of yards and not quite lots of points can happen once in awhile.
All this “regression to the mean” talk isn’t because people are being apologists for the spread or Rodriguez, but because they understand probability. If you produce a ton of yards of offense most of the time you’ll score a ton of points. Sometimes that doesn’t happen, but that’s still the most likely outcome.
not really my point
The regression to the mean aspect of the piece has to do with the assertion that red-zone offense will improve simply because it was bad this year. That same argument has been applied to turnovers in the past, and, as we’ve seen, proven wrong in Michigan’s case. It’s a generality, not something that is necessarily applicable to THIS team. They’re a guideline, a helpful tool, not gospel.
My point is that while statistics tell part of the story (indicating that things may improve), the eyeball test tells otherwise. The offense was prone to shooting itself in the foot either through playcalling or mental mistakes. Stats can say that things SHOULD improve, not that they WILL.
Again, the point is that a combination of the two point toward the most likely outcome, just like with the play book. You can’t use one or the other exclusively (play book or statistics). The over reliance on statistics to the exclusion of visual evidence to create an alternate reality where butt whippings didn’t happen because the end of game stats look so pretty is what I’m discussing here. I think you might have missed that.
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by Maize n Brew Dave on Jul 6, 2011 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions
The eyeball test...
The eyeball test is great, except that people constantly screw it up. For instance, you correctly state that we got killed vs. Wisconsin, but your eyes are fooling you if you think that was on the offense, which leads to your false premise that the spread offense wasn’t well implemented. In the Wisconsin game, there were four offensive drives in the first half. Admittedly, they weren’t good. But if we had shown up in any other phase of the game, maybe we’re only down 14-3 when our offense kicked it into gear on the fifth drive. Instead, your “eye test” tells you that our offense only got going when the game was over, which isn’t true at all, since we pulled to within 10 twice with plenty of time to finish the comeback, again, only if our defense could have done anything (how many times did Wisconsin pass in the second half?).
And this is the whole problem with your “eye test” and “reality.” People expected an offense that was led by a first year starter at QB to be essentially perfect on offense. An impossible task for any offense, for reference, Auburn’s national championship offense scored 17 against MSU (not that MSU). This was made worse by the fact that in the first half of big ten games, the defense didn’t show up, which allowed everyone to pass off those prolific second halves as meaningless. Allowing you to ignore good to great overall offensive performances against such defenses with a pulse as Illinois, Iowa, Wisconsin, PSU, etc. The offense laid two turds against OSU and MSU (not that MSU), but as a whole, it was never the problem, or even part of the problem.
I’m not going to sit here and say our offense was perfect or even as good as it could get, it wasn’t. I’m not even saying that the potential of the spread should have given RR one more year, it alone shouldn’t have. What I’m saying is that you are partially correct, statistics only show part of the story. But, while we weren’t the second best offense in the nation as ranked in FEI, we were a lot closer to the offensive juggernaut than the “eye test” and “couldn’t score” crowd would want you to believe.
Statistics are like women; mirrors of purest virtue and truth
or, like whores to use as one pleases.
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Common sense
Occasionally, common sense tells us things that aren’t true. For example, Bill James started using statistics in baseball when people believed that small ball worked—except it didn’t work as well as they thought, something that could be demonstrated by the numbers. The same was true about clutch hitting and the prime age for players.
No one would believe that Mike Hart held onto the ball exceptionally well without the numbers. Of course, seeing some of the hits he took helped.
The problem that statistical analysis of football faces is that sample sizes are smaller and that events are less discrete than in baseball. Instead of 162 games and a 0-0 count on every at bat, you’ve got less than twenty games and field position.
I didn’t read the MGoBlog post as a defense of RR so much as an attempt to sort out the issues. RR got fired, not because he screwed the pooch on the offense, but on every other phase of the game.
The sample size aspect you brought up is great
It’s an argument I tried to make, but your explanation is far better than mine.
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by Maize n Brew Dave on Jul 6, 2011 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes To Eyeballs.
Because while statistics are interesting, and even at times informative, Michigan didn’t pass the eyeball test on offense against good teams.
It’s possible this has something to do with the youth of the team, it’s possible it was the coaching, it’s possible that the talent to consistently win wasn’t there. I certainly can’t attribute it to any single thing, but I suspect that a decent defense would have been a great help in putting the offense in better field position, preventing the other team from scoring, etc.
This was an excellent article. Thanks!
I think there are a few things going on here
1) The offense last year was very good at moving the ball, and still managed to score more points than the statistical mean for college football teams.
2) Unfortunately, and primarily due to defense and turnovers, those points came in the last half of games where we were already getting blown out. During a point at which the game was still contested, the offense did not score points very well.
The contention between the two – what your eyeballs tell you and what the FEI #’s tell you – is exactly what patrickdolan said above: football does not give you 162 games and a 0-0 count for every statistical event.
The point here is not a damnation or a validation of the Rodriguez years. Rather, I think it’s a point that Borges shouldn’t tinker too much with the offense because it did score more than the statistical mean for college football. What happened last year was likely a bit of a fluke that compounded poor field position, really bad defense, and turnovers. Borges can impact the turnovers. I’m sure he’ll put his own imprint on the offense, but if he throws the Denard baby out with the bathwater, then we’re likely to see a regression in terms of offensive production. What this DOESN’T mean is that the team will be worse. A kicking game and a defense can make this team a WHOLE lot better, even if the offensive production comes down towards the statistical mean.
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8 out of 10 statistics are made up on the spot. Like this one.
Just something I heard.
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by PreachinTotheChoir on Jul 6, 2011 2:09 PM CDT reply actions
i've recently done a bit of work on the subject of turnovers and luck
over at Roll Bama Roll and i think i might be able to shed a bit of light on this part of the discussion.
On the subject of turnovers and the statistics that support them, the premise that they are “random” is a major pillar of the thesis that I, and a lot of reasonable people, do not share. Turnovers, in my view, are the by product of poor ball protection, poor scheming, poor decision making, and/or poor coaching. Maybe a batted ball or a helmet on the ball are an occassional random event, but sustained high turnover numbers are not random.
this, i believe, is correct… up to a point. it seems reasonable to assume that the tendency of teams to commit fumbles is something that can be addressed through coaching and proper preparation. but the fact is fumbles will occur and when they do that’s where the random arrives.
according to the venerable folks over at football outsiders recovering fumbles is a random event. once the ball hits the turf it’s impossible to predict who will come up with it. as a result there is nothing that can be coached to improve your odds. thus, the best strategy is work to limit the number of times your players put you in the position to be at the whims of chance. (which, i argue, is exactly what nick saban does at alabama.)
in this respect you should see a “return to the mean” if there is an unusually high or low percentage of fumbles recovered by your squad over a season. but the wolverines had a 58% recovery rate last season. that’s close enough to the mean to be almost impossible to predict anything important going forward. but regardless of your luck, the number of times you drop the ball is taking a chance that should be avoided in the first place.
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Middle Ground
Initially I was excited when I read your post because I thought it was a softer counterpoint to Brian’s post at MGoBlog. Like you I felt that the offense failed the eye test a little more than Brian implies with the yardage stats. But then I think you took it a bit too far, as other commenters have noted.
Specifically, you seem to state " it didn’t work at Michigan because, frankly, the coaching staff screwed the pooch in implementing it." I’m not sure you can say something that strong when you did see an offense put up a lot of yards and the QB become a Heisman contender. That statement neglects the role youth (first year QB) played, neglects the injury issues at RB as the season wore on, and neglects the role of kickers and defense in how the offense performed. Just like Brian shouldn’t blindly give the offense a pass for TO’s, you shouldn’t blame the coaches for totally screwing up the implementation of the offense when it did have some success and the coaches have a proven track record.
In the end the reality lies somewhere between the yardage stats and the scoring stats. A lot of the issues were dumb luck in why yards didn’t equal points. And the defense’s role in how the offense played (playing from behind, field position, turnovers, etc.) cannot be captured easily with stats. We all hope there is some sort of middle ground between what we saw last year and what we fear with all the smash-mouth talk and I liked your statement about that possibly being the ideal offense……but how difficult will it be to find that balance and fit the players into the system?
Defense does have alot to do with offensive efficiency
However, the contention that turning yards into points not being a responsibility of the offense is something I can not find support for.
If I give you the ball on your 20 or I give you the ball at midfield, you have a significantly higher chance of converting points from midfield. This is how defense can directly influence offensive production. See Michigan Football 1997. In fact, this is the actual reason why our yards were so high, but the points scored were so low.
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apparently i fail at block quotes
The mere hiring of Coach Hoke has sent Pryor and Tressel packing...
What Is The Real Issue Here?
I took the article to be a statement of how statistics can seemingly reveal something that isn’t really the case. For example, UM leading the league in O yards is not telling the whole story. I’m impressed with the Points/Yard as an indicator of how yards translate into wins. I have never been a big fan of yardage as the indicator of power. And points for and points against aren’t absolute either. Yardage as a yardstick, gives the impression that Michigan’s O was a dynamo and had no short comings. Moving the ball well, etc. Hey, they were the best in the conference. What’s there to change? Anyone buy that, I have some swamp land in Florida for sale. Yardage is like Laps Lead in NASCAR. It shows the guys who are out front a lot, the powerful, the strong. But everyone knows there is only one lap that counts. Yardage doesn’t tell you how much a team scores. I think whether or not RR screwed the pooch in implementing the spread is open to interpretation. They gained a bunch of yards, Denard was very exciting, to say the least, but they were far from consistant, far from potent against an awake defense, they weren’t the best in the conference. Pile on the bad D, the special teams stunk, and no kicking game and you have no wonder RR is gone.
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